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greetings and salutations friends uh

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welcome back to truth seekers i'm so

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happy you're all here and i'm especially

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happy that we have a surprise visitor on

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the phone for those that don't know

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there's these rumors going around that

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richard dodie is recommending awakening

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man to get uh lou elizondos old job so

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we reached out to the uh actual source

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and we're having these technical

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difficulties so we couldn't get richard

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and eric on it once but we have richard

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dodie on the phone how you doing richard

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great steve how are you doing great and

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uh i wanted to reach out to you because

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apparently the government is looking for

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somebody to run a new ufo program and i

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can't tell you maybe three different

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people told me that they heard that you

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were writing letters or

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reaching out to old contacts

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and recommending eric the awakening man

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to get lou elizondo's old job

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is there any truth to these rumors

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i've heard the rumors

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in fact i received

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probably a half a dozen emails from

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probably two dozen emails from people

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asking me the exact same question oh

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eric would be a fantastic person for the

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job but

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um

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no i'd rather have him in the private

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community

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yeah i was good that was me going to be

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my next question you know what's funny

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about eric is it doesn't matter what's

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going on in conspiracy land right i

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heard another show host say this and

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this is totally true

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if you go to contact in the desert eric

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is there conscious life expo he's there

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if you go to some little uh ufo

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conference in the middle of like

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sheboygan illinois or something he's

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there if you go to denny's at three

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o'clock in the morning and there's four

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guys talking about ufos or you know

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bigfooter aliens

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awakening man is there i don't know how

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he does it right

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yeah i don't need it and you're doing

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are you guys are doing a new project

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together can you tell us a little bit

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yeah um

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going to uh i think i'm going to be able

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to enter your studio here in a minute

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oh there we go look at that

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look at that yeah all right oh hold on

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let me let me kill the phone call yeah

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okay sorry about that oh good to see you

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i'm somewhat of a tech wizard at times

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weird with the first time guests that

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never use this software it's real easy

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unless it doesn't work like we had uh i

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don't know if you know we had john

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warner on and he uh

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you know i always joke with him that

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he's a member of the illuminati you know

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warner family they're so rich and melons

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and everything his mom was a melon and

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uh he

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has these super secure browsers that are

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like dod quality super secure browsers

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and he could not get in at all he had to

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go like get it get a burner laptop and

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put chrome on it to be able to

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because he's using the illuminati

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browser you know

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but yeah there's a browser out there

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that we use uh people with an

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intelligence it was actually developed

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by a guy that uh worked i.t within the

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government it's called enoch anak

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software that really is is is is good

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and i do have it but not on this

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computer i'm i'm actually in a hotel

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room up in in boulder at gaia so um oh

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yeah that's about five episodes

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and i i didn't mean to interrupt you uh

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you you i started asking you about this

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new project that you're gonna be doing

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with eric from the awakening man is that

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like the richard dodie files we're

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phoning out

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the dodie chronicles

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richard dodie chronicles that's awesome

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what what are you guys you guys it's

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gonna be a whole series right it's gonna

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be a series because there's uh

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over 100 different uh topics and we

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oh that's gonna be very very let's see

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eric are you there yes i am there we go

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we have eric the awakening man so eric

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i'm disappointed i'm disappointed

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because i have heard these rumors that

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that richard dodie's writing you letters

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of recommendation to take blue

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elizando's job and then uh

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christopher mellon put out this letter

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complaining about why lou alexander

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can't have his job back and i don't even

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understand him thinking that's a

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possibility because basically lou

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elizondo

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rubber stamped a release of what three

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or four classified videos and then he's

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been making a living off of that release

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for the past four or five years why

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would they give his job back so he could

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release more stuff

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get more book deals i don't understand

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well don't you think you'd do a better

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job eric than that guy

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i'll tell you why i i still

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i'm gonna guess rick has more insight

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than i do by a long shot but i still

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haven't totally figured out what's going

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on with mr elizondo but i will say this

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in a positive light

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whatever he's doing he's very

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professional he's well-spoken he's uh

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generally polite and respectful

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and so

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whatever his assignment is or isn't he's

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i think he's doing a good job now if

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they want to give him his job back at

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the dod

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uh i'm guessing that maybe his time with

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the ttsa is kind of finished and maybe

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go in another direction i don't know but

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fanboys and girls will be upset if he

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goes back to the dod what do you think

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rick do you think do you think it's even

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possible and why would he want to go

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back to the dod and what would be the

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psychology behind that if there is any

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he talks a lot i don't think

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yeah exactly he's he's uh i think he's

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burned his bridge

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behind him and i i don't think they take

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him back

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i still have i still have a number of

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contacts within the intelligence

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community and um

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most of them speak very highly of him i

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mean while he was in

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ufo cash cash

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that's what i was gonna say that's going

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to make him a lot of money

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i don't yeah i don't think they'd take

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him back um

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i think he burned his bridges i think he

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violated his security oath i don't think

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he would uh they would take him back

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so so let me run this by steve do you

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think that this stephen from your

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perspective could this just be like a

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empathy sympathy ploy from let's i'm not

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spec i'm speculating i'm not accusing mr

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mel milne of doing this but he's just

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trying to gain more favor with the

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community and that

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if if if in fact lou doesn't get a job

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his job back at dod then that's going to

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make him even more of a hero in the ufo

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twitter community what do you think

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stephen yeah i think all this is pr

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nonsense those guys are thick thick as

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thieves

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melon and him are buddies and they get

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you know they're grifting together they

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got the job the ttsa together and i

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guess that ran its course i'm always

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interested in why

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louis orlando gets interviewed all the

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time and nobody says hey what happened

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to that spaceship that you promised

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investors when you were a member of ttsa

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and all those other things you promised

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you never did and the same for

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christopher mellon no they get a pass

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you know and if you look at it they

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raised 34 million dollars i don't know

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what they did with 34 million dollars

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you know there's problematic i'm not a

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fan of lou and uh you know i get

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attacked constantly because if you ever

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say anything negative about the guy you

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get attacked by an army of trolls on

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twitter you know and it's all like brand

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new accounts which is weird

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you know like like accounts that just

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joined twitter last month will start

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lambasting you you don't know anything

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yeah and i i just want to mention to

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richard dodie that he is the most

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requested second interview that i've

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ever gotten and we won't call this one

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the second interview but i'm glad that

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he uh finally got to be here on truth

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seekers even though you know i'm going

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to get beat up he's a known

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disinformation agent and i try to

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explain your history and the things that

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you've been involved in and you know

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one of the things that i think richard

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gets bill fight wrongly for is that

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you when you're a military man you get

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orders you just do what they tell you

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right richard i mean you got to do what

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they tell you

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exactly

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and then i get reward awarded for i mean

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i i have

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awards

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for professionalism and the things that

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i did

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and uh you just don't get some of these

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awards for i mean i got an award from

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the uh chairman of the joint chiefs of

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staff

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general vesti back in the 80s and um you

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just don't get that for for not doing

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your job and i i did my job

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there's a lot of things that i did i

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uh and i thought there might have been a

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different way to do it doing it but when

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my boss

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tells me to do it this way i did it and

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and we were successful in it

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so i mean

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and this information wasn't

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my entire

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workload and a lot most people don't

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realize that i mean i did

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major counterintelligence operations to

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protect highly classified projects that

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the the government was doing and one of

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those one of those revelations from you

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that i thought was amazing is that the

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benefits thing he was seeing early

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drones that were being tested and that's

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what they were trying to protect and i

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oh i i've got a huge a big question for

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you mr doty and that is that uh dark

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journalist he has a show you know dark

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journalist he is really big of this uh

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saying or the x protect group in other

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words there's a secret government bunch

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of people that are protecting the ufo

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file or secret projects

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you were a part of that organization

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that he believes is a real organization

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people that are protecting

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either

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extraterrestrial technology or super

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advanced

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you know drone technology or whatever

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kind of technology that the government

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is hiding at area 51

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yes yes uh i wouldn't call it that but

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but uh you can call it whatever you want

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but there is a

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there is an organization within an

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organization that does exactly that that

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that

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the secrets

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and they're so well placed

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that is difficult uh there's so many

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layers it's difficult for

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somebody in the outside to ever find out

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who they are and even even the people

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inside like myself

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it's it's it's difficult

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it would be difficult to to find out

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exactly

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who these people are

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and and uh where

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all these things are hidden now

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i know what i did and i know what i saw

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and my security oath is expired

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some years ago

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and

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there's only been on two occasions where

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uh the fbi or uh us intelligence

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contacted me and said

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to me you're saying too much about a

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particular subject

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and there was a reason for that it was

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interesting so they checked you they

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checked you right

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yeah one of the things i spoke about

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uh might have been still classified and

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and so i i i

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understood it and i said to him i won't

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talk about that anymore and they left me

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alone now

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there's ways to talk about it without

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really talking about it if you know what

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i'm talking about

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yeah and i've also heard i've also heard

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uh multiple people say that

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if you were involved in any of that

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stuff

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one way that people

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talk about without talking about is they

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write fiction books right but they fill

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the fictional book full of

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you know real events change the names

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change the places and things like that

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yeah i'm waiting for richard dodie uh

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richard dodie men in black book that's

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what i want

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another way uh stephen another way would

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be to get a guy like awakening man to do

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a show with you and let him leak the

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information out and then he could have

362
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that's what i was talking about well

363
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that's what i was going to say but eric

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i'm excited i'm so excited my agent now

365
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he's my agent

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thank you thank you very much i'm

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honored highly honored i i can't wait to

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see this project eric and if you want

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any input or help from me i'm all for it

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you guys are going to be doing the

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richard dodie chronicles and he said he

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just said this eric he's going to be

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releasing never thinks he's never talked

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about never before heard information

375
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yeah so you're going to have the goods

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on new information

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which is uh so rare in the ufo community

378
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i mean look we just spent the past week

379
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arguing because somebody labeled

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something on google maps s4 research

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center

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and then we find out that anybody can

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label anything it might get taken down

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there's this whole thing and and then it

385
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turns out that the guy who found it

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uh

387
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pretended to have terminal brain cancer

388
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so that he could steal four thousand

389
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dollars from an event that was organized

390
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for him and he even stole the gift cards

391
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from the event not a credible witness

392
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there's so little new information right

393
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well well let me tell you something real

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quick um

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something occurred about uh uh

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i guess it was about eight months ago um

397
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well i was in i think it was in may so

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you know whatever it is six six or seven

399
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months ago

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a guy um

401
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i'm not going to name him

402
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,360
but he was doing research

403
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on area 51.

404
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he went to libraries like people don't

405
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,039
use them anymore but he's he went to to

406
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libraries around

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uh in in nevada in in las vegas he also

408
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went to the national archives and he

409
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found mats

410
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old maps of the area old maps of the

411
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nevada test site

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old maps dating back to the 50s 60s and

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70s

414
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and with those maps

415
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he steadied him and found out that there

416
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was

417
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he found two maps that actually had

418
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a

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uh s2 complex under construction by

420
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united states air force

421
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and it showed on a secondary map that

422
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was attached to the the primary map it

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showed a a construction site

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he went he went he didn't know how to

425
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present this and he contacted some

426
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people unfortunately to him he contacted

427
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one wrong person

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and that wrong person notified the

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government

430
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and

431
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those maps they confiscated all the maps

432
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but they eventually gave all but that

433
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one back to him

434
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but what he did was he took a picture of

435
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that map with i guess with his cell

436
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phone

437
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so he has that picture but he's

438
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deathly afraid

439
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,559
to uh disclose it

440
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,360
quick quick and uh rick some

441
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,960
as you know maybe the listeners don't

442
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,520
know is originally back in the 50s early

443
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60s when when

444
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,440
what's now called area 51 was being

445
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,919
built and developed it was a cia project

446
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,919
is that correct yes

447
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,080
and then how did it go from a cia

448
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,400
project into the hands of of whoever the

449
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:10,159
controllers might be now how do you how

450
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,360
do you know what do you know about the

451
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:13,679
history of how that all happened

452
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:16,799
well the uh the cia built the facility

453
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,600
but they had to uh uh bring in the air

454
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force because the planes that they were

455
00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:23,760
testing out there the u-2s

456
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and during that time period

457
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:27,840
were owned by the air force but the ct

458
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,039
the cia had a number of other projects

459
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:33,520
that they wanted to uh

460
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:36,159
to do in in that area because it was so

461
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,440
remote

462
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:39,760
so they built the area over a period of

463
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time

464
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there was we george knapp no he knows

465
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,320
all the contractors that did this uh

466
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,559
this is all open source knowledge now i

467
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,480
mean there's no nothing hidden about

468
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:51,760
what they did and what they built out

469
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:52,559
there

470
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except for pat busley

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and so in 1974

472
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the cia asked the air force to take over

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the facilities because

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number one

475
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congress wouldn't fully fund black

476
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projects the air force was it was easier

477
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for the air force to

478
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and so uh the the whole area was turned

479
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over to the air force now the cia still

480
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have

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still has facilities there both on groom

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lake complex

483
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and and other other locations around

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there

485
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from what i understand

486
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well the department yeah department the

487
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air force works all the military

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agencies work for the department of

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defense

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and uh the department what what big

491
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,720
agency out there that's with in the

492
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department of defense is darpa

493
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yes and

494
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darpa is the advanced research project

495
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agency that

496
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that

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funds

498
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research projects classified highly

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classified research projects

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and and darpa is a big entity out there

501
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,679
at uh

502
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,279
area 51.

503
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:05,039
now steven's been

504
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:06,640
on this uh

505
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,520
mission to debunk uh bob lazar which i

506
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,440
don't have a problem with that but

507
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,679
yeah we and eric me and eric agree on so

508
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,000
many things but we disagree on that and

509
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:18,799
hey eric just so you know uh

510
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:21,600
richard doty once sent me his real

511
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,880
area 51 badges like pictures of them so

512
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,960
that i can compare to bob lazar's fake

513
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,440
one and i've had

514
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:31,840
about six or seven different people that

515
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,159
i can verify including mr doty that

516
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,679
actually worked there

517
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,159
send me badges and i've never seen any

518
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,919
badge that looks anything like bob

519
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,240
lazar's fake one they and they and

520
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,240
everyone who sent me one they bear some

521
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:46,080
similarity because there were different

522
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:50,240
time frames but you know we disagree

523
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:51,600
well let me let me say this the reason

524
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,840
why i even brought up bob's name is

525
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,240
as richard told me that he happens to

526
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:58,000
believe bob so maybe if you can give

527
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,120
your brief

528
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,200
uh you know briefing on why you believe

529
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,960
bob lazar's story or what portion of it

530
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:04,240
you believe and maybe is there a portion

531
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,520
that you're not so clear about or you're

532
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,360
not so sure about rick

533
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:08,480
well

534
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:12,000
bob has described

535
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:13,200
the um

536
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:14,799
the area

537
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:15,760
of

538
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,240
he calls it s4

539
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:22,559
and because he called it s4

540
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,520
most

541
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:26,240
people in the in open source media calls

542
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,679
it s4

543
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:29,600
actually s4

544
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:32,399
is a facility under s2 the complex at

545
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:35,440
papoose lake is called s2

546
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:36,320
okay

547
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,559
site dash 2 site 2. and

548
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:42,159
it has

549
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:44,399
an underground facility which is called

550
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:47,520
s4 there's four levels under there i've

551
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,520
i've never been at s4 i've been an s2

552
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,799
s2

553
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:54,640
it is built into the mountain it's the

554
00:29:03,909 --> 00:28:59,200
administrative control facilities for s4

555
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,919
s s2 s3 i mean s uh 3 and s4 the

556
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:05,760
underground facilities

557
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,720
so s2 is the complex

558
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:10,399
everything under there

559
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:12,240
is yes and now i understand there's an

560
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:13,279
s5

561
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:15,440
uh somebody just mentioned that

562
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:17,440
and told me who who actually works out

563
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,159
there

564
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:20,480
um so

565
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,039
he describes the entrance

566
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:26,240
to s2 how you actually get in the door

567
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:27,760
is open you drive in there's

568
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:30,159
administrative control there's a

569
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,600
the security checkpoint there's a uh

570
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:35,760
exchange badge system

571
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,559
uh to get there there's there's places

572
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:40,720
to park a vehicle in there

573
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:44,159
and then you walk down a particular uh

574
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:45,200
um

575
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,640
a tunnel

576
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,200
where the to the elevators

577
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:51,919
and there's there's distinctions there's

578
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,159
there's certain things that only

579
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,440
somebody that has been there excuse me

580
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:58,880
would know

581
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,520
and when we quizzed

582
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,120
bob about that

583
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,960
he answered every one of those questions

584
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:06,640
correctly

585
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:08,960
and then he there's there's another

586
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,000
particular thing about the elevators

587
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:13,760
only somebody that's been there and has

588
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:16,480
been on him would know this uh

589
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,440
abnormality so to speak or idiosyncracy

590
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,960
about the elevators

591
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,120
um

592
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:25,520
and he he he told us he told

593
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,279
us exactly how how how they operated

594
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,039
and now he explained he just he

595
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:33,279
described s4 well i've never been down

596
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,000
there

597
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,960
others that i know have been so i can't

598
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,240
say what

599
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:40,320
what he was describing down there was

600
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:42,880
truth because like i said i never had an

601
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:43,760
actual

602
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,399
uh uh need to know to be down there

603
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,200
only only bob did now

604
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,720
bob could have gotten this information

605
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,320
from other people

606
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,960
um and that's it's been very possible

607
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,399
but there was a there was a guy out

608
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:58,640
there by the name of paul mcgovern

609
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:01,039
uh he's he's up in his 90s he was chief

610
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,960
of security for for uh area 51 uh

611
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,200
george knapp nozim there's many people

612
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:09,360
have interviewed him um

613
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,360
and he he verified in 1999

614
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,399
that bob lazar was in fact uh

615
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:18,480
well i should say

616
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:22,080
paul mcgovern verified that bob lazar

617
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:23,440
had a

618
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:24,720
uh

619
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:26,080
access to

620
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:27,039
s2

621
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:29,279
that's what he actually said

622
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,240
so

623
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,799
thank you for what you is it is it

624
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,640
possible that since he became buddies

625
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,159
with john lear

626
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:38,159
that for whatever reason john lehrer

627
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,080
seems like a very colorful colorful

628
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,200
character who might even be uh be for

629
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:45,519
fun just mess around with people could

630
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,679
he have fed uh lazarus some information

631
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,760
was our thinking it's real then repeated

632
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,919
it along with his own personal

633
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:53,919
experiences maybe lear was trying to

634
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:55,440
give him more information whether it was

635
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:57,679
true or not just to build up the story

636
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:01,519
more without bob's knowledge

637
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,640
um

638
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,799
yeah good point yeah yeah that's a good

639
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,279
point uh that's that's very possible i

640
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,679
know i know bob and john are friends i'm

641
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,200
friends with john

642
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:12,960
uh i wouldn't necessarily call myself

643
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:15,360
friends with bob but i mean

644
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,320
he's an acquaintance um

645
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,880
i've i've had conversations with him but

646
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,120
i i don't uh you know i wouldn't call

647
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:26,080
him a friend just an acquaintance

648
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:27,120
so i

649
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,080
um i think

650
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:32,480
i think bob must

651
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,360
i actually think he was there um

652
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:37,840
and and it's after um when i was there i

653
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,640
mean i was there from 83 to 86 so

654
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:42,399
and he was there after that

655
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,200
so who knows what kind of security

656
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,440
systems were changed

657
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:50,000
after i left i don't know maybe maybe

658
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:50,960
there was

659
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:54,080
the the hand print thing that he's

660
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:56,559
talking about and

661
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:57,679
so

662
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,240
that's whatever anyone what people want

663
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,080
to believe i guess

664
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:04,000
now this picture that we're looking at

665
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:05,200
right here

666
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,320
yeah this is this this is this new s4

667
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,559
that somebody had found then they had to

668
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,720
do all this metal gymnastics because

669
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:14,640
these two structures were seeing in the

670
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,880
picture are only 100 foot by 100 foot so

671
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,159
then they drew

672
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,159
hangar bay doors on the back of it that

673
00:33:23,909 --> 00:33:22,320
were only 10 feet wide so to me that

674
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:23,919
busted the whole story that this is the

675
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,840
mythical s4 because

676
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,159
a 52-foot spacecraft can't get in out of

677
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,399
the 12-foot door they did all this metal

678
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,480
gymnastics to make this fit

679
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,159
bob said it was on pat right off of

680
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,080
papoose lake this is six miles from

681
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:38,399
papua's lake the only evidence

682
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,679
that they had the people that came out

683
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,679
with this story was that somebody we

684
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:43,519
don't know who labeled it with a

685
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,039
government pin s4 research facility and

686
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:49,440
again cory was brought to us by

687
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:51,679
a pretty shady scammy guy

688
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:55,120
this is not this is not a um

689
00:34:37,829 --> 00:33:56,640
a

690
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:37,839
it's it used to be in mine

691
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:40,399
where they they detained our our

692
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:41,520
visitors

693
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,240
the et's were detained there

694
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:45,839
and they had to

695
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:48,159
um and i'm giving away some things here

696
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:49,599
but

697
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,639
when when we we had e.t visitors come

698
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:55,440
from from other planets

699
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:56,320
uh

700
00:35:09,430 --> 00:34:57,359
the

701
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:09,440
like we would live but that's

702
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,240
not that's farthest from the truth

703
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:14,720
most et's that came here that we've had

704
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:18,400
contact with either can't breathe or air

705
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,720
or air is too thick

706
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,119
there's some something in our air that

707
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:25,040
they can't stand

708
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:28,960
and like like maybe the the nitrogen or

709
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,520
whatever so they have to have special

710
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:33,920
facilities they have to have special

711
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,960
breathing

712
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,720
and they have have to have special

713
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,640
facilities

714
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:40,320
to survive

715
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:42,839
we built those facilities right

716
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,349
go ahead i got i got to make sure that

717
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,359
it clarified though because you know

718
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,880
that this is going to be a whole new

719
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:54,960
part of this uh whole new part of this

720
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,280
story then let me zoom out so that you

721
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,280
can see where papoose is and see where

722
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:01,200
the pinned location is and you're

723
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,960
telling me that this is a

724
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,119
a facility where they store

725
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,480
where they house the alien visitors

726
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:10,160
yes

727
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,440
well there you go friends that's

728
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:12,880
breaking news

729
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,040
well when in the 80s when i was there i

730
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:17,200
don't know what and i want to ask you a

731
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,079
question if you could watch this because

732
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:23,119
this this road to me is is you know it's

733
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,160
like a

734
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,119
25 foot wide road and i just don't when

735
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:29,200
you need four-wheel drive to get down a

736
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,240
sandy dirt road up a mountain

737
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,560
because again if people say it's not if

738
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,800
there's an underground uh transportation

739
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:38,960
system stephen well there's more mental

740
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:41,040
gymnastics to make it work though eric

741
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,720
yeah well

742
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,560
people said that this was s4 and my

743
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,040
contention is that you're not going 12

744
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,599
miles on a sandy road in a bus to get to

745
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,520
this location you would need something

746
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:54,240
with four-wheel drive that's just my my

747
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:57,599
opinion having driven on sandy mountain

748
00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:00,000
roads with and with that four wheel

749
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,680
drive you know

750
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,839
but this is interesting so now we have

751
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,520
you're gonna this is gonna open this

752
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,000
whole s4 can of worms again mr doty

753
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:10,160
because now everybody's going to say see

754
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:12,000
that guy was right maybe it wasn't bob

755
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:13,839
lazar's s4 but that's where they keep

756
00:37:18,190 --> 00:37:16,720
the aliens bro

757
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,200
in 19

758
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,960
1980s in the 80s

759
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,040
that's the facility

760
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:24,640
and and

761
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:27,440
it's in a remote location nobody needs

762
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,720
to have access except for scientists

763
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,119
these ets weren't moved around there

764
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:35,760
wasn't any reason to have the facility

765
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,040
in some kind of uh easy access location

766
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,200
i mean i didn't build it so i don't know

767
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,839
why they built it there but they did

768
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,079
uh i can tell you that in the 80s that's

769
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,760
what was there i don't know what's there

770
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:49,680
now let me let me ask you a question

771
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:50,720
rick so

772
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,880
let's say i'm trying to go deep into the

773
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:54,960
rabbit hole minute left okay i got i

774
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,200
gotta leave here okay go ahead

775
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:59,119
you asked for steven bomb and run thanks

776
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,000
mr toad thanks no we appreciate your

777
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:04,560
time we know you're a busy guy no i i

778
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,640
was just going to say that is there any

779
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:09,119
chance that you as an employee

780
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,920
uh

781
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,520
having not actually been there in person

782
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,280
might have been fed disinformation that

783
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,079
you that you choose to believe

784
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,760
for whatever your reasons are you

785
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,040
completely convinced that the

786
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,880
information you just shared is accurate

787
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,119
and one more thing one more thing

788
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,760
all of the historical maps that i have

789
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:27,440
including russian satellite maps from

790
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,960
the 80s late 80s early 90s and all

791
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:32,720
google maps every source that i could

792
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,359
find this structure this thing wasn't

793
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,800
there there was nothing but rocks and

794
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,320
dirt there

795
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:41,040
until 2002. so

796
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:46,950
well um i just know i can just tell you

797
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:49,839
what i know when i was there i don't

798
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:52,400
know what was is there now

799
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:53,839
um

800
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:56,320
i know how to get there

801
00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,839
uh have have i been there inside no i

802
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:02,079
have not so at the answer eric's

803
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,040
question

804
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:05,040
i don't think uh

805
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:07,839
it's easy for people from the outside

806
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,440
to say well you're just being fed

807
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:11,440
disinformation but remember i was on the

808
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:12,480
inside

809
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,599
i knew what disinformation was i knew

810
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,520
uh facts from fiction

811
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,680
uh i could read documents i could talk

812
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,320
to people i mean i had full access of

813
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,119
every facility on groom lake i was a

814
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,119
counterintelligence officer i could go

815
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,839
anywhere i had that badge

816
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:32,160
uh the clear badge which means i had

817
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,400
access to almost everywhere

818
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,960
i should say almost everywhere because i

819
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,599
i never went to s4 now if i had a reason

820
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,599
to go to s4

821
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,760
if i had a need to know i could probably

822
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,599
have gone there but as far as this

823
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,680
facility i just can tell you what i know

824
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,079
about it now

825
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,480
today right now it may be something

826
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,480
entirely different those two buildings

827
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,960
weren't there when i i was there so i i

828
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:58,640
can tell you those are new and they

829
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,800
might have been built in 2002.

830
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,400
well that's a good explanation because

831
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,800
it might be that if if all you're seeing

832
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:06,960
is this little square which is which is

833
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,599
an entrance to an underground facility

834
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,520
you might not see that on satellite maps

835
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,520
because it's tiny you know exactly

836
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:15,760
exactly especially old satellite maps

837
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:18,319
from 1989 and 1990 let me tell you

838
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,680
something else

839
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:20,560
um

840
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,599
we

841
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,359
the united states government i said this

842
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,119
in a presentation

843
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:26,880
uh on the benefits case

844
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:29,280
we were able to uh blind soviet

845
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,520
satellites with a laser we would shoot

846
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,079
our laser and we had two lasers there on

847
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:36,880
groom lake in the 80s we'd shoot the

848
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,760
lasers up and they would blind the

849
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,280
satellite so the satellite we couldn't

850
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,440
take pictures and another thing we could

851
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,040
do was

852
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,800
project

853
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,240
an image

854
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,319
and this is used to be really highly

855
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,640
classified but it's not anymore we could

856
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,359
project an image into the sky

857
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,880
and the satellite would be taking a

858
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,560
picture of that image

859
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:01,200
not that's not what's on the ground

860
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,720
richard i've seen it i've seen

861
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:04,319
technology like that

862
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:05,119
uh

863
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:09,839
would disperse dispersed particles in

864
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:11,760
the air because you need something to

865
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,280
protect them so they would exactly

866
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,359
disperse these particles that would that

867
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:17,359
would linger in the air and then they

868
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,440
back projected from the ground so i have

869
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,000
seen this technology yeah that's exactly

870
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:25,680
the technology yeah yeah so um

871
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,400
but

872
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,640
i'd love to come on again i i gotta yeah

873
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:30,960
let's do this i will i will contact you

874
00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:32,319
to do a full interview i would really

875
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,920
appreciate but we're going to wait as

876
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:35,200
richard's agent we're going to wait

877
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,960
until we get our show ready to go and

878
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,319
then we'll be yeah you can come here to

879
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:39,839
pump it up sure there you go brother

880
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,200
there you go

881
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:43,200
thank you mr dodie always okay you take

882
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:46,160
care of y'all take care okay

883
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:47,520
thanks for having me

884
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,560
thanks rick

885
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:50,880
oh there we go so now we just added to

886
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,680
this

887
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,079
bin gate controversy

888
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,680
doty says that's where they keep the

889
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,240
aliens oh no now we're gonna have a

890
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,480
whole new week worth of debate on this

891
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,200
place eric you know what what i get a

892
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,760
kick out of us all these uh armchair uh

893
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,680
ufologists that have

894
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:09,040
never been there don't know anybody

895
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,480
that's been there that go on the

896
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:12,000
internet and i'm not knocking you or

897
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,119
anybody else i'm just saying that

898
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,440
there's always more information even the

899
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:16,800
information that i've been able to get

900
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,560
from guys like dodie and other people

901
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:21,040
it's still not even half the information

902
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,640
but at least it's something that i can

903
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,040
contribute to the the whole mystery of

904
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,200
it all yeah and i just want to mention

905
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:29,520
that i i absolutely

906
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,839
understand that people the richard dodie

907
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:33,760
is a very controversial figure so here's

908
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:34,960
what happens

909
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,000
i i've had a hundred people since at

910
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:39,920
least since my original interview with

911
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,760
him a few years ago

912
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,760
email me and say you've got to interview

913
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,040
him again

914
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:46,880
and then

915
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:48,800
you know we just have him on for you

916
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,640
know just a quick spot now and there's

917
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,079
people in the live chat

918
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:53,839
they're not happy he's

919
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,040
he was and i will say that he was

920
00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,680
a disinformation agent he was paid by

921
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:02,640
the government to disinform people and

922
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,599
and all this involved ufos i i almost

923
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,520
don't understand some of it's like

924
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:09,839
they use they convince people what

925
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:11,760
you're seeing is aliens when it was

926
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,480
drones and then apparently when people

927
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,240
are seeing things that may be aliens

928
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,839
they're trying to convince them that it

929
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,560
was

930
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,400
you know swamp gas or something or

931
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:21,520
drones

932
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,839
yeah i mean they're playing both sides

933
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,520
there's no doubt yeah they're playing

934
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,520
both sides of the deal that way people

935
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,400
should also be aware that both richard

936
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:33,599
dodie's father and richard dodi's uncle

937
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:36,640
were involved with ufo programs for the

938
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:39,440
united states government as well as him

939
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,319
and he worked at area 51. so

940
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:44,560
i understand that he has done things in

941
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:46,319
his past that even he will say he's not

942
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,040
proud of and i disagree with some of the

943
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,760
you know i understand he got ordered to

944
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,760
do these things but me i don't like some

945
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:56,000
of the things that i know that he did

946
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:57,200
however

947
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,680
knowing that the guy's father was

948
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,359
involved in the ufo program for the

949
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,880
united states government knowing that

950
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,720
the guy's uncle was involved and knowing

951
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,280
that he was involved and that he worked

952
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,280
at area 51

953
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,440
i can't help myself but talk to him and

954
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:13,520
now i realize that some people still

955
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,040
think he's you know there's all these

956
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,880
conspiracies about him some people say

957
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:18,960
oh he's still on the payroll

958
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,040
he goes in and he muddies the waters and

959
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,839
and he's you know just informing people

960
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,280
we don't know that

961
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:27,359
and and also i kind of lost my

962
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,880
objectivity when it comes to him because

963
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,800
i really like him as a person

964
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,560
so the audience is going to have to

965
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:33,599
forgive me

966
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,920
if if you're upset that we host him or

967
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:38,000
listen to him because i like him as a

968
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:39,839
person and a lot of people want to hear

969
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,160
from him so i'm on this tightrope going

970
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:44,800
do i let him come on and talk or do i

971
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,599
say no you you were disinformation agent

972
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,839
i i don't know what to do i know people

973
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:51,760
want to hear from him though so

974
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,079
my inclination is to let him come here

975
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,760
you know what do you think eric

976
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,440
i'm with you and honestly i mean quite

977
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,640
frankly

978
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:00,480
uh i met him a couple years ago at the

979
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,520
ufo megacon in laughlin nevada and i

980
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:05,760
went there specifically to meet him had

981
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:07,839
never never met him before i only knew

982
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:09,680
probably kind of what you guys

983
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,280
generally know i was in the same boat

984
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:13,040
you were in but i was kind of curious to

985
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,920
see

986
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,160
who he was and you know i wanted to get

987
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,800
a vibe and feel for this guy if he if i

988
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:20,560
got a sense that he was full of you know

989
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,640
full of [\h__\h] or if he was legit or what

990
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,720
and and i've been kind of uh you know my

991
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:26,960
deal is i research the researchers i i

992
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,760
consider dodie also a researcher he's

993
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,839
constantly getting information that he

994
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:33,920
doesn't share publicly but i learned

995
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:35,839
that when i was doing my own personal

996
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,000
research i would share things with him

997
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,560
privately and he would he would tell me

998
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,000
whether or not the information that i

999
00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:44,480
was given was accurate or not

1000
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:45,680
and then i would go out and i would

1001
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:47,599
cross check it i would cross research it

1002
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,920
i mean i was constantly trying to debunk

1003
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,440
my own self i mean i i don't want to

1004
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,760
present information just to be funny or

1005
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,920
or to try to impress people i'm looking

1006
00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,440
for the truth just as much as you as

1007
00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:59,839
anybody else but i'm convinced that

1008
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,319
dodie uh is is more legit than people

1009
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,400
give him credit for and what we're gonna

1010
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,640
do is when we do our show together we're

1011
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,480
gonna encourage people to email us and

1012
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,240
then a part of our show will be where

1013
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:12,560
we'll read emails so people have

1014
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:14,240
questions for dodie in the future

1015
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:15,599
they'll be able to email them we'll read

1016
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,800
the emails on the air live and respond

1017
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,920
so people will actually have an

1018
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,280
opportunity to ask questions and

1019
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:22,800
interact with them even if they're not

1020
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:24,880
on the phone with us

1021
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:27,119
yeah and andy is saying as i thought

1022
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,160
stephen calls out fakes and

1023
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,240
misinformation i'm surprised mr dodie is

1024
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,240
on the show like i said controversial

1025
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,400
figure some people want to hear from him

1026
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,480
some people don't believe a word that he

1027
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,720
says so you know

1028
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,720
leaves me at a uh

1029
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,359
in a tight spot and i certainly by the

1030
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,960
way i didn't need a guest you know

1031
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:46,160
people were like oh he must have really

1032
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,280
needed to get

1033
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:50,000
eric said hey i can have richard call in

1034
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,760
and i said sure

1035
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:53,200
we're going to originally just have a

1036
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,119
conversation between me and eric but

1037
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,720
since they're doing a project together

1038
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,560
and i haven't talked to him in quite

1039
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:01,359
some time you know i said sure and and i

1040
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,560
don't think there's anything wrong with

1041
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:04,240
that and and you know

1042
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:05,920
here we go again like some people can

1043
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,800
host literal scumbag criminals with

1044
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,640
terrible criminal records

1045
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,880
and that's okay but i host somebody that

1046
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:15,440
we can verify worked at area 51 we can

1047
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:18,880
verify his employment his history uh his

1048
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,599
involvement in ufo topics for the united

1049
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,599
states government i'm inclined to at

1050
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,400
least listen to him but i do agree uh

1051
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:28,079
mark toronto saying he's a trained liar

1052
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,200
yeah he's trained in counter

1053
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:30,800
intelligence so

1054
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:33,599
when i talk to dodie i'm always like i'm

1055
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,000
always very uh guarded because i'm

1056
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,480
afraid that i'm that i'm falling victim

1057
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,880
to some kind of a you know maybe maybe

1058
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,400
he's supposed to come here and tell me

1059
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,559
this stuff that's not true or you know

1060
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,559
get into you get into the conspiracy

1061
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,559
mind with him but he's an interesting

1062
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,480
character the mirage man movie is one of

1063
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,079
my favorite movies my favorite

1064
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,680
documentary probably

1065
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,440
one of my favorites

1066
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:57,440
yeah and just so you know there's a very

1067
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:00,079
good chance that there will be a

1068
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,440
i'm not going to say what the title will

1069
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:03,760
be exactly but there will be a mirage

1070
00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:06,240
man too so to speak but it'll be from

1071
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:08,319
the perspective of rick doty and and the

1072
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,160
inside information that was not exposed

1073
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,640
in mirage man one so i'm hoping to be a

1074
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,800
part of that project

1075
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,559
let me go ahead

1076
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,480
you mentioned that he is constantly

1077
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,240
getting information another thing that

1078
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,839
people don't know about

1079
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,760
richard doty but i do because i know

1080
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:25,520
somebody's part of this group that he's

1081
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:28,640
in he's in a group of retired

1082
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,960
intelligence officers and those guys get

1083
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:32,240
together

1084
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,040
and trade information and many of them

1085
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,119
either they still have clearance or they

1086
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:38,880
know people who still have clearance and

1087
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,720
they still have contacts and connections

1088
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,240
and so

1089
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,960
they're kind of looking into some things

1090
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:46,079
together

1091
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,319
out and share information so

1092
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:54,400
you know to me it's like

1093
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:56,079
one of those things that i like can i

1094
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:58,400
really just dismiss this or should

1095
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,520
should i

1096
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,839
uh at least

1097
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:03,520
entertain what he's talking about you

1098
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,480
know

1099
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:06,319
and you guys got to keep in mind too

1100
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,119
that

1101
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,599
in my opinion if two of the top names

1102
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,200
that you know these guys don't do

1103
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:12,880
interviews typically

1104
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:15,119
is hal put off and kit green

1105
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,480
and i think anybody that does any

1106
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,720
research on ufology and and the pentagon

1107
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:20,640
and and those people they know

1108
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,880
worked for richard worked for for help

1109
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,119
put off yeah he still works with the

1110
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,599
project yeah they're buddies i mean

1111
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:29,040
yeah i've been on the phone with dodie

1112
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,240
and then all of a sudden he says i gotta

1113
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:32,079
go i mean green's calling me so i gotta

1114
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:33,520
hang up you know let's get green takes

1115
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,119
precedent but

1116
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:37,359
i'm gonna say this that um

1117
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,800
you might be surprised that some of

1118
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,480
these people might possibly come forward

1119
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,319
and have some conversations with dodie

1120
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,400
on our show and what this is going to do

1121
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,240
is it's going to open up a box of

1122
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:48,240
information that i'm under the

1123
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,760
impression these guys want to get out

1124
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,720
now here's what's going to be

1125
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,559
interesting is we can then compare that

1126
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:54,559
information with the information that's

1127
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:57,680
coming from the the ttsa alezondo

1128
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,839
christopher mellenside you know so

1129
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,680
there's there's two sides there's in my

1130
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:04,079
opinion there's two semi-competing

1131
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,319
factions in the intelligence world that

1132
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:08,240
are trying to control the narrative i'm

1133
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,839
under the impression that dodie's

1134
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,520
friends and so on and so forth they're

1135
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,960
more interested in trying to get as much

1136
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,800
of the truth out there as possible not

1137
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,800
to cover it up or hide it or or or

1138
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:18,079
muddle it up

1139
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,440
it's the other guy

1140
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,040
it should be noted too

1141
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:23,359
that richard doty has been at the

1142
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,800
epicenter of so many ufo-related stories

1143
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,400
and mythology

1144
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,079
and there's there's a few schools of

1145
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,920
thought one is that he's sent by the

1146
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,359
government to put all this stuff out

1147
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,359
there to confuse people and misinform

1148
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:36,960
people and muddy the waters he's been

1149
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,440
involved in the benewit saga

1150
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,359
a lot of people credit him or think that

1151
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:43,359
he was involved in mj 12 and there's

1152
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,480
some weird evidence that the mj 12

1153
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,319
documents were typed on a typewriter

1154
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,559
that he had at one of his jobs the same

1155
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,040
exact typewriter that's some weird

1156
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:56,240
evidence and also people tracked his ip

1157
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:59,359
number to the these uh the serpo files

1158
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:01,680
that were leaked and released

1159
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,160
saying that it was his ip that that put

1160
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:05,680
that information out now when i

1161
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,800
interviewed him he denied any

1162
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,040
involvement in the mj-12 he denied any

1163
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,200
involvement in the serpo files but there

1164
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:13,520
is there is substantial and supportive

1165
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,800
evidence that he had something to do

1166
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,839
with both

1167
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,760
and uh so i don't know what to think

1168
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:19,520
because then then you get in a whole can

1169
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,800
of worms like

1170
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,880
i i don't think serpos credible but a

1171
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,480
lot of people still think that mj12

1172
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,640
documents are either credible or an

1173
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:28,240
attempt to get information out maybe

1174
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,680
they weren't real documents but they had

1175
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:31,599
real information it's this whole can of

1176
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,200
conspiracy worms

1177
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,800
but you okay consider this as a

1178
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,640
possibility i'm not suggesting this is

1179
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,319
what happened but this is what i

1180
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,559
perceive probably happen is that when

1181
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,559
you've got a guy at los juice rick as an

1182
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,280
example who maybe kind of to some degree

1183
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:47,839
breaks breaks rank a little bit starts

1184
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:50,319
telling stories about aliens at area 51

1185
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:52,240
i can promise you there's a faction that

1186
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,680
doesn't like that he's mentioned this

1187
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,440
but so what these guys who are

1188
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,599
professional disinformationalists uh

1189
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:59,200
have the ability to do is create a

1190
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,359
narrative that could then discredit

1191
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,000
people like rick doty so a lot of this

1192
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,760
information in my opinion isn't coming

1193
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:08,240
from uh from crackhead debunkers on on

1194
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,599
youtube like this clown that you were

1195
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,040
talking about the other day that that

1196
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,119
faked out his cancer it's it's it's

1197
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:15,119
coming from the highest echelons that

1198
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,559
are kind of in this it's kind of like

1199
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,240
politics you got the dims and the

1200
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:20,559
republicans throwing mud at each other

1201
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,880
most of that mud is bs but the bottom

1202
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,319
line is it muddies up the water enough

1203
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,319
to cause people to get confused and then

1204
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:27,920
they either lose interest or they don't

1205
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,079
believe anything after a while

1206
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:32,400
yeah and then also

1207
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,000
you know lou elizondo was a

1208
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,680
counterintelligence agent and some

1209
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:37,520
people would would say that he was a

1210
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:40,160
disinformation agent and and

1211
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,240
it's weird that like i guess people just

1212
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:45,200
decide like well lu elizondo's credible

1213
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,319
even though he was also a

1214
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,400
counterintelligence officer just like

1215
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,800
richard dodie so we get into a situation

1216
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,440
where people i i guess cherry pick and

1217
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,040
pick and choose who who they think is

1218
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,880
credible and who's telling the truth and

1219
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,119
and who's bullshitting us you know right

1220
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,960
exactly it's uh

1221
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,240
so i don't know do you want to you want

1222
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,760
to go into some of this letter now you

1223
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,880
want to just keep talking about this

1224
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:06,000
you're the boss you run the show

1225
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:06,880
everybody

1226
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,800
i know i got to find the i got to find

1227
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,640
the link so uh

1228
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,319
i got the letter here i can read i can

1229
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,319
read there's eight or nine paragraphs i

1230
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:15,920
can read one paragraph and then we can

1231
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,240
kind of debate it or discuss it or think

1232
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,079
about it hold on i'm going to get it all

1233
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,240
right i will share my screen and and

1234
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:25,040
we'll get it going

1235
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:26,800
once while you're doing that let me just

1236
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:28,880
make this comment that um

1237
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:31,520
it's my opinion uh that

1238
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,599
some of the things that i've told dodie

1239
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:35,599
he's very well aware that that i'm not

1240
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:37,359
somebody that's gonna be easily fooled

1241
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,640
there's gonna be trolls out there that

1242
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,319
think i'm an idiot or think i could be

1243
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,160
faked or that i'm or i'm signed up on

1244
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:44,160
some special program to to help these

1245
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,920
guys spread disinformation which is all

1246
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,359
total [\h__\h] but if people want to

1247
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,359
believe that i don't really care but i

1248
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:51,040
think dodie's very smart much smarter

1249
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:53,040
than me he knows that if he were to slip

1250
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:56,240
up and try to fool me or get me to do

1251
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,000
things or say things that were not true

1252
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,920
that i would figure it out eventually

1253
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:02,000
and then in that point if that happened

1254
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:03,280
then of course i would come forward and

1255
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:04,319
say hey you know what i worked for

1256
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,760
richard dodie for one year we did this

1257
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,680
radio show and i thought everything was

1258
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:09,440
peachy gumbo then all of a sudden i

1259
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:10,559
figured out he told me something that

1260
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:13,200
was total bs so i'm out of here i mean

1261
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,720
that's what i would do i mean if i

1262
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,640
thought at any point that dodie was

1263
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,040
janking my chain i promise you i would

1264
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:21,040
walk and i would talk but i don't think

1265
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:22,400
he's that dumb i don't think he's not

1266
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,599
dumb at all as a matter of fact i think

1267
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,680
he knows better and i think that he

1268
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:27,200
wants to get the truth out as best he

1269
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,720
can and that's why we're going to do

1270
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,319
this show

1271
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,640
yeah yeah well give me give me another

1272
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,720
minute so the point is that christopher

1273
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,240
mellon puts out this

1274
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,400
this uh

1275
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,799
i don't know letter that claiming that

1276
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:42,799
lou elizondo should get his job back

1277
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:46,559
which i think is ludicrous but you know

1278
00:54:50,549 --> 00:54:49,040
what are you gonna do right i mean

1279
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:50,559
why would you give

1280
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,839
somebody their job back when they've

1281
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,359
been trashing the government and the

1282
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:55,280
government programs that's why he left

1283
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,760
because you right he wasn't happy with

1284
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,920
what those guys were doing he was not at

1285
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:01,040
all happy

1286
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,400
with the way they were running the

1287
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:04,000
program they weren't taking it seriously

1288
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,839
enough you know whatever so i i think

1289
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,359
why would you give the guy a job back

1290
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,000
like it's like in corporate america you

1291
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,319
don't get to quit

1292
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:16,960
a company and then trash them for three

1293
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,720
years and then get your job back that's

1294
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,880
just not how the world works but i i

1295
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,400
finally got it i'm sorry about it okay

1296
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:24,079
but let's just let me piggyback on what

1297
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:25,440
you just said or

1298
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:27,680
if let's say hypothetically

1299
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:29,440
that this whole thing that and i'm not

1300
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,640
saying this is what happened but let's

1301
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,160
just say this whole thing that lou just

1302
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,880
ran on uh they ran on us for three years

1303
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:37,680
here since 2017 four years now was all

1304
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,319
part of the plan to kind of take control

1305
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,240
of the narrative and then now that

1306
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,599
they've kind of got control of the

1307
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:45,520
narrative through lou elizondo and ufo

1308
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,319
twitter and and that whole group then i

1309
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:51,280
mean they could uh welcome lou back but

1310
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,880
i mean there's a lot of ways to go but

1311
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,559
the bottom line is i think that that

1312
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:56,160
group of people

1313
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,680
whether they're telling the truth or not

1314
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,280
it kind of controls the narrative for

1315
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:01,520
the most part right now

1316
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:02,559
yeah

1317
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,680
all right so do you want to read from

1318
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,440
this or do you want me to read it yeah

1319
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,599
let me uh hold on one second here so

1320
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:09,119
i'll read the first paragraph and then

1321
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,880
we'll just discuss one paragraph at a

1322
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,640
time and then if you wanted to read the

1323
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:14,880
letter that uh okay so here's we're

1324
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:16,160
going gonna start off why hasn't lou

1325
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,440
elizondo

1326
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,839
been offered his dod job back before we

1327
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:21,920
even get into that why would he want the

1328
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,559
job back i mean technically he could

1329
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:26,559
probably make a lot more money as a solo

1330
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,160
guy out there doing

1331
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,480
the sort of things that uh projects and

1332
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,480
whatnot where he can make money on this

1333
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:34,240
uh a lot more money than he would as a

1334
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,640
as a dod guy i mean those guys i i have

1335
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,000
a friend that's a

1336
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,240
retired dod seven years ago i asked them

1337
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,680
i go you know what kind of pension do

1338
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,880
you get what kind of money do you get i

1339
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,960
mean these guys do not get paid a lot of

1340
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,040
money and they don't they're okay

1341
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:48,880
so eric it's important it's important

1342
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,920
that i point out that christopher mellon

1343
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,000
christopher mellon's cousin is john

1344
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:57,040
william warner iv right right right and

1345
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,960
uh i have a statement from him about

1346
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,960
this that i could read that go ahead

1347
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:02,640
well

1348
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,079
let's get into it first and then we'll

1349
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,079
read that when we're done okay

1350
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,240
yeah and then john did want to join us

1351
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,400
today i did ask him but he was had some

1352
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,400
other obligations but uh

1353
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,720
but he he thinks uh well i'll wait and

1354
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,240
let you say that part but anyway okay so

1355
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:18,240
here's the here's here's the letter that

1356
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,839
was printed earlier today by christopher

1357
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,680
millen says how many times in your life

1358
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,839
at work or at school have you been

1359
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,400
advised to think outside the box or to

1360
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,400
be brave and principled and think

1361
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,240
independently rather than just going

1362
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:32,400
along with the herd i would imagine more

1363
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,200
than once but is that really good advice

1364
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:37,040
i'd like to think so but let's consider

1365
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,680
the case of lou elizondo so let's talk

1366
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:42,240
about how he framed this first paragraph

1367
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:43,680
what do you what do you see in the

1368
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:46,079
framing of this this opening paragraph

1369
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,119
here

1370
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,280
he's trying to paint louisando as an

1371
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,920
independent thinker a renegade and

1372
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:53,200
somebody that thinks outside the box

1373
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,119
he's trying to frame him as some kind of

1374
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,839
uh you know special person that has that

1375
00:58:02,309 --> 00:57:59,839
ability that's what i'm saying

1376
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,319
and and technically the jury is still

1377
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:04,640
out on that i mean he's certainly in my

1378
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,680
opinion

1379
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:08,000
shown uh circumstantial evidence through

1380
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:09,839
his speeches in his in his numerous

1381
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,079
interviews and his is just his general

1382
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:14,400
mannerisms and what he talks about as

1383
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,079
potentially somebody that is being

1384
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,920
sincere and credible although there's

1385
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,760
other people that would argue that but i

1386
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:21,760
don't see any evidence of that jumps out

1387
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,559
that says he's a liar right now okay but

1388
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:26,319
but anyway so we'll go to paragraph two

1389
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:29,440
here in 2017 after years of working

1390
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,799
selflessly

1391
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:32,079
now this is the part i want to talk to

1392
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:35,359
you about on his own time to motivate

1393
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,240
people in dod and the ic to take the uap

1394
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,280
issue seriously he finally resigned

1395
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,920
yeah so his own time that means that he

1396
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,160
wasn't being paid for that work

1397
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,720
and that probably isn't also

1398
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:51,280
a reference to the recent revelation

1399
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,359
that that whatever program louis

1400
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:55,359
elizondo claims to have worked on

1401
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:59,280
involving ufos it was not funded

1402
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,640
but it also wouldn't have been on his

1403
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,160
own time

1404
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,160
yeah there's nothing let me just say

1405
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,319
this in my opinion this is where melon

1406
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,240
kind of slips up there's nothing that

1407
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:10,240
would show me that lou did anything on

1408
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,000
his own time he was either working for

1409
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:14,160
the dod or he was working on this

1410
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,240
project but there was always something

1411
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,559
going on that was related to one of the

1412
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:20,240
two it was never like oh you know i'm

1413
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,599
sitting at home at seven o'clock i'm

1414
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:23,280
having a beer uh let me get up and get

1415
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,480
in the car i'm gonna go knock on some

1416
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,559
doors on my own time and and spread the

1417
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,319
gospel i mean that just i don't see that

1418
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:30,839
as a real you know but part of me thinks

1419
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,160
that uh you know i famously asked lou to

1420
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:36,559
see his tax returns when he was on this

1421
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,760
theories of everything show and he

1422
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:39,280
didn't like that question one bit

1423
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,760
because i i have this i don't know if

1424
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:43,680
it's a hunch or what but i think that he

1425
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:44,880
had

1426
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:49,200
nothing to do with ufos

1427
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,960
and then i think that him and hal put

1428
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:53,119
off and a few other people

1429
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:55,920
got together and senator reed maybe even

1430
01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:58,240
and created this group that they just

1431
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,559
you know were volunteering and they were

1432
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:02,640
using their classified access or

1433
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,960
whatever to try to get ufo information

1434
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,359
but it wasn't an official you know it's

1435
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,680
not like an official government

1436
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,760
project started put him at the head of

1437
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,240
it and said go investigate ufos i think

1438
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:16,559
that this was sort of like a personal

1439
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,160
project that he did while doing

1440
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:20,480
something completely unrelated as a

1441
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:22,960
full-time job so that's plausible i

1442
01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:24,480
would say that

1443
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:25,680
now where do you think let me ask you

1444
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,760
this stephen let's just let's just use

1445
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:29,200
the number 21 millions because

1446
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,720
apparently that was the money that reed

1447
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:32,720
was able to get for for one of these

1448
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:34,400
programs that he was involved in is that

1449
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,720
correct

1450
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,960
yeah okay where did that money go after

1451
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:40,240
i mean let me ask you something how many

1452
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,440
guys are in this program a handful 10 15

1453
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,440
20 i don't know but where did the 21

1454
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:47,359
million go let me ask you this is it

1455
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:48,640
possible

1456
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:50,720
this is a this is a conspiracy theory

1457
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:53,200
right now is it possible that when this

1458
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:55,119
whole thing was formulated that there

1459
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:56,559
was a big chunk of that money i don't

1460
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,079
know what portion of it

1461
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,880
and lou was selected by this group to go

1462
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:02,720
out and and put this information out

1463
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,839
after 2017 and maybe some of that 21

1464
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:08,480
million dollars was like a prepayment

1465
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:10,079
for him to do all the work that he

1466
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,839
supposedly has been doing for free for

1467
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:13,680
the last three years and now that that

1468
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,760
money's been spent maybe he wants his

1469
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:17,680
job back then that's total speculation i

1470
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:19,359
have no proof of that but couldn't that

1471
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,720
be possible

1472
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,720
yeah it's entire anything is possible

1473
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:24,240
because you can't get straight answers

1474
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:26,240
out of some of these guys yeah you know

1475
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:29,280
i i i ran the program the pentagon says

1476
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:32,000
i didn't run the program uh the program

1477
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,799
was and and he lou elizondo is the one

1478
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:36,480
who told the new york times he was the

1479
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:38,079
major source of that original new york

1480
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,960
times article he told them we had a 22

1481
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,640
million dollar program that i was the

1482
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:44,480
head of and it turns out that's not

1483
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,880
accurate that that 22 million dollar

1484
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:48,720
program that money went to a different

1485
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:51,200
program that he was not a part of but he

1486
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,359
said they they you know

1487
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:54,960
that those people

1488
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:56,240
let me give you

1489
01:02:01,670 --> 01:02:00,000
programs that i'm familiar with that

1490
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:01,680
have nothing to do with ufology but have

1491
01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:04,720
to do with how black programs work is a

1492
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:06,799
lot of times uh what these guys will do

1493
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:08,480
is they'll they'll create let's call it

1494
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:10,400
a shell company for example

1495
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:11,839
and then there's there's another company

1496
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:13,359
there's let's say there's multiple shell

1497
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,280
companies so the money gets filtered

1498
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,440
through these shell companies so that

1499
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,200
the it's kind of untrue it's almost

1500
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:21,680
untraceable there's no paperwork that

1501
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:23,200
kind of verifies really where any of

1502
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:25,359
this money went so ultimately it just

1503
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,240
kind of gets filtered so it's possible i

1504
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,760
mean what they tell us in the media may

1505
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:31,599
or may not be true but it's possible

1506
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:33,280
that these programs are designed that

1507
01:02:39,029 --> 01:02:35,119
way so that it's always plausible

1508
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:39,829
yeah

1509
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:42,880
there's there's so many possibilities

1510
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,440
here and and it's always this these

1511
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:47,680
layers of deception like i said we never

1512
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:49,119
get a straight answer it's like well i

1513
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,039
ran the program the government says i

1514
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,119
didn't it was funded with 22 million and

1515
01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:55,359
then this book comes out no it wasn't

1516
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,280
and now they seem to be backpedaling now

1517
01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:58,960
they're saying he did this all on his

1518
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,640
his own time

1519
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,119
you know like it like a volunteer yeah

1520
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:04,880
he just decided he was gonna use his

1521
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:07,200
government contacts and his access to

1522
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:08,640
see what

1523
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:11,599
what he could dig up about ufos right

1524
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:13,760
right could be you know now here's the

1525
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:15,440
thing i can also tell you from a friend

1526
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:16,480
of mine that

1527
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,480
uh works in in programs that has nothing

1528
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:20,720
to do with ufos is that if there were

1529
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:23,119
somebody like let's say lou elizondo

1530
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:24,559
that was part of a different type of

1531
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:26,160
program that had nothing to do with ufos

1532
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:27,440
but it had all everything to do with

1533
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:29,599
black programs and secrecy that were to

1534
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,599
kind of slip the nest so to speak and

1535
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:33,839
then go on their own rogue so to speak i

1536
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:35,599
can guarantee you that they wouldn't be

1537
01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:37,200
walking free and talking free for as

1538
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:39,520
long as lou alizondo has that's my

1539
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,960
opinion and that's the opinion of my

1540
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,119
friend

1541
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,799
yeah yeah i mean

1542
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,480
anything is really possible here so go

1543
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:48,480
on and read some more okay so uh he goes

1544
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:50,400
on to say here that uh

1545
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:52,319
okay so let me fight

1546
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:54,160
and maybe lou alexander is gonna get mad

1547
01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:55,920
at you if you try to get that job of his

1548
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:58,400
you know yeah tell you what

1549
01:04:01,109 --> 01:04:00,000
you don't you you couldn't pay me enough

1550
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:01,119
because another thing i'll tell you that

1551
01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:03,119
i would love if you got that job though

1552
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:04,880
no dude there's no way

1553
01:04:07,349 --> 01:04:05,920
they own you

1554
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:07,359
bro

1555
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:09,039
wait once you get that once you get a

1556
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,119
job like that you're a part of the

1557
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,720
here's what my friend told me he said

1558
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:14,400
it's almost like being part of the mafia

1559
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:16,559
that once you're in you you don't get

1560
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,559
out i mean they're they're always you're

1561
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:19,440
always

1562
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:20,880
whether you want to be or not they're

1563
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:22,880
always tabbing you they're they're if

1564
01:04:26,069 --> 01:04:24,720
you have information that you're not

1565
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,079
supposed to be discussing or that's

1566
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:28,559
supposed to be uh classified information

1567
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:31,680
uh it's anyway uh i'm not even gonna go

1568
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,960
on to that one but let me read the rest

1569
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:34,640
of this article it says here he he did

1570
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:37,280
so because these unidentified aircraft

1571
01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:40,000
were routinely violating restricted u.s

1572
01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:42,079
airspace in a manner and pattern that

1573
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,200
suggested someone has achieved a major

1574
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:47,359
technological breakthrough and is using

1575
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,119
it in a manner that poses a potential

1576
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:51,920
threat to the u.s forces if this is not

1577
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:54,960
an unknown agent has benign intentions

1578
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:57,599
why are they provocatively sending these

1579
01:05:01,510 --> 01:04:59,920
craft to swarm around u.s airships

1580
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:01,520
apparently intending to be seen and

1581
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:03,680
provoke a reaction that reveals our air

1582
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:05,839
defense procedures and capabilities why

1583
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,000
are they spying on sensitive dod test

1584
01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,559
ranges us nuclear power plants navy

1585
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:12,480
carrier strike groups the critical fad

1586
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:14,960
missile so on and so forth so i mean

1587
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:16,640
what do you think about that what's your

1588
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,599
take on that well a big part of my take

1589
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:21,599
on a lot of those things is that we're

1590
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:23,839
dealing with a foreign adversary's very

1591
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:26,880
advanced drones that's what i believe

1592
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:29,280
having seen a lot of things and you know

1593
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,599
it's kind of naive to think do you know

1594
01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:33,200
what kind of drone technology the

1595
01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:35,920
chinese have it's every bit or as good

1596
01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:38,559
as ours or better they have long flight

1597
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:40,799
drones that could stay up for 20 hours

1598
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:41,839
or more

1599
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:43,119
you know

1600
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:45,760
there's so much technology that we

1601
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:47,920
that people could be employing

1602
01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:50,799
and drones are really you know like

1603
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:52,880
problematic for the government because

1604
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:53,839
you know

1605
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,359
look at some of the stuff that they're

1606
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:57,440
capable of like you could have a drone

1607
01:06:00,870 --> 01:05:58,559
swarm

1608
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:00,880
all with mini guns and and you could

1609
01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:03,200
shoot 300 of them at an adversary if you

1610
01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,720
wanted to you know or just for just for

1611
01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:09,119
surveillance maybe the chinese drones

1612
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:11,039
are running around keeping track of

1613
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:12,640
where the aircraft carriers of the

1614
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,880
united states are we don't know this i

1615
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:16,400
don't like people that go right to the

1616
01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:18,559
alien explanation with everything you

1617
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,640
know me i want to i want to eliminate

1618
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:22,400
everything and drones are

1619
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,280
a good possibility for a lot of this so

1620
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:27,200
okay old encounters all right let me

1621
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:29,680
counter that with this possibility uh do

1622
01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:31,920
you really believe that 40 years ago or

1623
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:35,280
35 years ago when they were apparently

1624
01:06:37,829 --> 01:06:36,160
uh

1625
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:37,839
you know groaning if you will use the

1626
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,880
term droning a military nuclear bases in

1627
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:43,280
the 60s um i don't think you can

1628
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:45,839
convince me that the chinese have been

1629
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:48,400
spying on us with their advanced drones

1630
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,559
for 35 years and we haven't figured out

1631
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:52,319
how to counteract that technology and

1632
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,680
that would be my counter to what you

1633
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:55,280
just said

1634
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:57,440
yeah yeah i guess i guess you're right

1635
01:07:01,270 --> 01:06:59,280
and i would think that

1636
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:01,280
the government should have technology

1637
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,000
enough to know that it's a drone all

1638
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:06,160
that advanced all that advanced radar

1639
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:07,839
they should be able to tell the size of

1640
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:10,079
the of the whatever it is if it's a

1641
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:12,559
drone if it's a small drone a huge drone

1642
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:14,240
they should have the technology to be

1643
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:15,359
able to

1644
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,720
to identify drones i would think or they

1645
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,799
should be developing it like at light

1646
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:22,640
speed right now because this is going to

1647
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:25,440
become an issue with with defense it is

1648
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,359
an issue it is an issue

1649
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:28,799
and here's what else they can do let's

1650
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:31,599
imagine this possibility imagine that we

1651
01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:34,000
the united states has drone technology

1652
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:36,799
that's the most or up amongst the most

1653
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:39,599
superior of all nations and that we are

1654
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:41,839
testing this technology in areas

1655
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:44,480
hypothetically and let's say during that

1656
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:45,520
testing

1657
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:47,920
a malfunction occurs or some yahoo with

1658
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:50,000
the shotgun is able to get lucky and pop

1659
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,760
one and knock it to the ground and then

1660
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,760
all of a sudden now it's recovered

1661
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:55,599
now some yahoo out in the forest

1662
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,799
recovers this advanced top secret drone

1663
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:00,720
technology that we're experimenting with

1664
01:08:05,589 --> 01:08:03,440
so they need plausible deniability so by

1665
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,599
calling this drones then they could say

1666
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:07,280
oh that was there it is there's the

1667
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,720
chinese drone we've been telling you

1668
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,880
about all along so they're always able

1669
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,960
to kind of skirt away from the ufo

1670
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:15,039
possibilities by by now they're using

1671
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,279
this drone narrative now i'm not saying

1672
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,799
that the drone narrative is a fake

1673
01:08:22,829 --> 01:08:20,640
narrative but they could use it in that

1674
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:22,839
manner to deceive us is what i'm

1675
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,640
saying

1676
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:26,719
yeah yeah i mean i i think that that's a

1677
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:29,839
very good possibility i mean i'm sure

1678
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:32,000
that people have used drones to try to

1679
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:34,080
create fake ufo videos too claiming

1680
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:36,640
absolutely yeah we've seen so many of

1681
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:39,440
them so many of those things you know

1682
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:41,359
okay i'll read this last uh there's one

1683
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,040
more there's five more paragraphs so the

1684
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,120
next one is obviously this is a matter

1685
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:47,120
of grave concern yet for years nobody in

1686
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:50,080
the dod or the ic had the courage to

1687
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:52,239
raise this taboo issue regardless of the

1688
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:54,319
facts or potentially or potential

1689
01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:55,679
consequences

1690
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:57,759
for our military and our country finally

1691
01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:00,080
after a month-long last-ditch effort by

1692
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,880
lou

1693
01:09:05,189 --> 01:09:02,640
failed to get the issue in front of the

1694
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:05,199
secretary himself lou resigned in

1695
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:07,440
protest in protest to draw attention to

1696
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:09,520
the problem uh i've got to take on that

1697
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:10,880
but let's what do you think about that

1698
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:13,759
comment here finally after a month-long

1699
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,920
effort uh you know months of effort to

1700
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:18,000
get this secretary of defense i mean

1701
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:20,400
what do you think about that comment

1702
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,960
yeah i i think i think that they're sort

1703
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:25,040
of like sour graping you know i think

1704
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:26,799
that they wanted to have control of the

1705
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:30,080
ufo program and now that new programs

1706
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:31,440
are beginning

1707
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,799
i don't think they're very happy that

1708
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:34,719
they don't have their hand in it and

1709
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:35,839
they want to

1710
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:36,719
right

1711
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:42,159
that the secretary of defense whether he

1712
01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:44,960
would admit it or not would have as much

1713
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:48,080
or more knowledge than lou elizondo

1714
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,440
i would think so i would think it would

1715
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,600
have a lot more right so couldn't it

1716
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:53,759
also be true that if what lou might have

1717
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,480
said to melon that i tried my best but

1718
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,040
maybe the defense secretary knew exactly

1719
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:01,679
what lou was saying maybe maybe he was

1720
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:04,400
under orders not to discuss it so he got

1721
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:06,800
re so basically you know he got gave lou

1722
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,239
the cold shoulder

1723
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:10,640
and lou maybe possibly got frustrated

1724
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:12,560
and said you know what if no one's going

1725
01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:14,400
to talk about this i'm going to go in

1726
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,840
this direction now i'm sticking up for

1727
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:17,280
lou right now but i mean that's a

1728
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,840
possible plausible situation as well i

1729
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:21,840
don't know

1730
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:23,840
anything's possible right you know right

1731
01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:24,560
right

1732
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:26,320
impossible with this stuff

1733
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:27,760
but

1734
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:30,159
it's interesting to me that the you know

1735
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:31,280
you know one of the things that always

1736
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:32,800
bothers me eric and you can tell me what

1737
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:35,199
you think about this is that for 70 plus

1738
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:37,760
years now the the prevailing belief has

1739
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:40,000
been there's a ufo cover up and the

1740
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:41,199
government knows more than they're

1741
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:42,480
telling us

1742
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:44,080
and you can go as deep as you want into

1743
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,760
that they have crash retrievals they

1744
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:47,520
have bodies they've recovered live

1745
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:51,120
aliens all this kind of you know

1746
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:53,360
but but the general belief has been that

1747
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:54,880
the government is lying to us the

1748
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:56,640
government is covering it up blue book

1749
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,239
was a joke you know to design to to

1750
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:02,480
downplay any ufo sightings and things

1751
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,840
like that

1752
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:05,360
um

1753
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:07,600
and now suddenly in the last five years

1754
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,199
or so

1755
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:11,440
we're supposed to suddenly believe a

1756
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:12,800
bunch of former government

1757
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,040
counterintelligence agencies like tcsa

1758
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,800
was filled

1759
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:18,960
they had over a hundred years combined

1760
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,080
cia experience ttsa's board right and

1761
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:23,760
suddenly we're supposed to believe these

1762
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:25,520
people and i have a hard time with that

1763
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:26,960
i have a real hard time with that that's

1764
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,960
why i don't understand louis elizondo

1765
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:30,719
fanboys because i'm like you know you

1766
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,800
know who he worked for remember the

1767
01:11:35,910 --> 01:11:34,480
government's covering it up and suddenly

1768
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,920
this guy comes out and we're supposed to

1769
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,679
believe him now i i just have a hard

1770
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,440
time processing and you know i really

1771
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:41,040
would lo i wish i knew how many of these

1772
01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,719
fanboys were actually bots i mean

1773
01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:44,400
seriously i mean i would have the best a

1774
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,239
lot of them i'm telling you exactly when

1775
01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:48,080
i get attacked it's by brand new

1776
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,640
accounts and it's always like some alien

1777
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:52,400
you know it'll be like alien life

1778
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,400
forever and it'll have a picture of a

1779
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,560
grey alien and they'll tell me i'm an

1780
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,640
[\h__\h] and how wrong i am and who's a

1781
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:01,280
hero yeah and lou himself has been

1782
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,040
caught with that faceless bureaucrat

1783
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:05,520
twitter account he by mistake posted

1784
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:07,280
something on his soccer camp that he

1785
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:09,440
meant to post on his main account that's

1786
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:10,640
him i

1787
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,640
believe 100 percent this faceless

1788
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:14,560
bureaucrat on twitter is him because oh

1789
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,960
really i'm always that guy always comes

1790
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:18,719
out the faceless bureaucrat is always

1791
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:21,040
defending louis elizondo interesting

1792
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,960
because i i had a conversation with him

1793
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,320
i didn't know who he was so i'll have to

1794
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:27,120
keep an eye out for that in the future

1795
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:28,159
you might have been talking to lou you

1796
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:29,760
didn't even know you never know you

1797
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,960
never know he's a good

1798
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:33,120
counterintelligence officer he pulled

1799
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:40,149
i'll tell you a little side story so the

1800
01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,600
the other i'm not going to mention the

1801
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:43,440
full name of this person or the full

1802
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,520
name of the show but i'll just refer to

1803
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:47,280
him as jimmy black i think everybody

1804
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:48,840
knows who i'm talking

1805
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,600
about who shall not be named but okay

1806
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:53,199
jimmy black we'll just call him jimmy

1807
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,480
black so we don't get any strikes for

1808
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:56,239
that but um

1809
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:57,199
you know i'm not going to throw him

1810
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:58,560
under the bus totally but i will say

1811
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,320
this there there was a time for many for

1812
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:03,040
a long time jimmy black was saying i'll

1813
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:05,040
lose this info he's da da da da da i

1814
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,640
don't believe anything he's saying and i

1815
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,480
and i would call him up and say yeah

1816
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:10,640
well whether he is or isn't you're the

1817
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:12,000
guy that should interview him because

1818
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:13,679
then you can ask the question so we can

1819
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,400
try to evaluate better whether where

1820
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:18,159
he's coming from because he was getting

1821
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,520
you know lou was getting all these i

1822
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,120
call him fluffer interviews where these

1823
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:23,120
guys just get on there and just kiss his

1824
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:24,719
ass and ask him all these softball

1825
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:26,560
questions well i call that the ufo

1826
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:27,920
circle jerk that's right there you go

1827
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,159
yeah the circle jerk guys so anyway so

1828
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,640
uh what was funny is so so jimmy had him

1829
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:34,640
on a few times and then and then now not

1830
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:37,120
too not recent just recently in recent

1831
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,080
months

1832
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:40,000
um you know

1833
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:41,920
somehow surprisingly which to me is

1834
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:44,159
total bs but you know lou happens to

1835
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,480
call into the show oh look who's on the

1836
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:48,800
phone we got lou elizondo how you doing

1837
01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:51,120
and then here's lou oh jimmy my good

1838
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,679
friend jimmy how are you today oh and

1839
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:56,000
and my good friend christina gomez

1840
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:57,920
you're so lovely darling how are you

1841
01:14:01,350 --> 01:14:00,080
today i mean just the ass kissing that

1842
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:01,360
was going on

1843
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:03,920
i thought it made me freaking puke it

1844
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,239
made me puke i said you know what i i

1845
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,320
said i'm done with this i can't be a

1846
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,760
part of that anymore and i had to get

1847
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:11,920
out of that i just forget it

1848
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:13,280
that is it

1849
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:15,360
yeah i i have a real problem with the

1850
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,520
softball interviews and the things and

1851
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:19,520
lately i've started to realize though

1852
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:21,920
that i have to let things go because

1853
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,840
everybody i guess has their own way of

1854
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:25,760
doing things but to me it doesn't it

1855
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:27,199
doesn't bring anything to the table if

1856
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,880
all you're going to do is lick some ufo

1857
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:30,880
celebrities ass for two hours and then

1858
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:34,320
exactly ask them like like i said

1859
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,600
how many people have interviewed lou

1860
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:36,960
alexander

1861
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:38,719
show me one time where somebody said

1862
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:41,280
what happened to all the ttsa money what

1863
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,719
did you guys do with all the money

1864
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,640
exactly what happened to the spaceship

1865
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:46,400
you promised investors

1866
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:48,159
with a revolutionary power source that

1867
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,600
was going to change the world what

1868
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,000
happened to this so-called ufo recovered

1869
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:54,320
ufo fragments what happened where's the

1870
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:56,000
lab reports you were supposed to give us

1871
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:58,480
the truth no they sold that stuff to the

1872
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,000
army they have some contract with the

1873
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,400
army over that stuff right right yeah

1874
01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:04,560
it's it's disclosure so much for

1875
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:05,840
disclosure

1876
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:06,719
yeah

1877
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:08,159
that's a distraction

1878
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:09,679
anyway there's there's a letter that lou

1879
01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:12,000
wrote i think it's it's about three

1880
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:13,520
paragraphs we don't even have to read it

1881
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:15,760
but it was his resignation letter i mean

1882
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:17,440
if you want to read it we can but i

1883
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,400
don't know i don't have to read it i

1884
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,679
think most people are familiar with it

1885
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,440
or just look up lula

1886
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:23,520
resignation letter yeah so let's let's

1887
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:25,520
finish off with uh with what mr mellon

1888
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:27,360
said there's five more paragraphs so so

1889
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:29,280
this is what this was uh melon's uh

1890
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:31,840
response to the uh to the letter he said

1891
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:34,000
since the publication of that letter the

1892
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:36,320
one that lou wrote as a resignation

1893
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:38,480
letter the uap world has been

1894
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:42,640
transformed in 2017 uap were a taboo

1895
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:44,880
subject that few in the u.s government

1896
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,400
dared discuss now we have a

1897
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:48,560
congressionally mandated annual

1898
01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:50,400
classified unclassified reports and

1899
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:53,360
legislation that may finally compel dod

1900
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,000
and the ic to treat the uap issue as

1901
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,719
seriously as we do threats like chinese

1902
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,320
and russian hypersonic vehicles and

1903
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,320
missiles so what do you think about that

1904
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:04,239
little comment right there yeah i mean

1905
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,560
again i'm open to

1906
01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:08,159
i think

1907
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:11,360
if i'm being fair if i really try to be

1908
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:13,199
as fair as i can

1909
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:15,360
they at least got people talking yeah i

1910
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:17,280
agree with that they got talking i'll

1911
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:19,520
give them that and it it was much more

1912
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:22,000
of a taboo subject and it's much less of

1913
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:24,080
a taboo subject now you're not an

1914
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:26,000
automatically a nutter if you talk about

1915
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:28,159
ufos or believe in ufos partially

1916
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:29,760
because the government have now come out

1917
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:31,840
and said yeah there's something

1918
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:33,280
they're real there's something to this

1919
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,320
phenomenon and it requires further study

1920
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,560
you know yeah i take my hats off to them

1921
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,960
for that i don't know if there was a

1922
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,880
hidden agenda behind the idea of at all

1923
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,640
maybe there isn't a hidden agenda maybe

1924
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:46,480
maybe their intentions are sincere i

1925
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,000
think time will tell but let me finish

1926
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:50,000
this paragraph so he says u.s senators

1927
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:51,600
are now openly acknowledging the fact

1928
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:54,320
that the observed uap technology in some

1929
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:57,040
cases is so advanced we cannot help but

1930
01:17:01,910 --> 01:16:59,440
consider the possibility it was not made

1931
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,920
by human minds that mind-bending

1932
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:04,080
possibility is now being taken seriously

1933
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:06,719
around the world due to the congruence

1934
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:09,360
of the efforts of dr avi loeb of harvard

1935
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:11,920
and a handful of outspoken pundits from

1936
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,080
the u.s national security community so

1937
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:15,920
what have you been following uh dr abe

1938
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:18,000
loeb are you following his conversation

1939
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,280
and i i read the book and and honestly

1940
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:23,840
uh his book about

1941
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:26,159
is very convincing he gives some very

1942
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,199
convincing arguments for why that object

1943
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:31,679
may indeed be some sort of alien

1944
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:34,080
technology because of the physics he

1945
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:36,080
uses physics to say

1946
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:37,679
it can't be

1947
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:40,080
making it can't turn this way it can't

1948
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:41,600
right you know some of the things that

1949
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,120
it was doing as it flew through our

1950
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:45,360
solar system if it was a natural

1951
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:47,840
formation a comet or asteroid it

1952
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:49,920
shouldn't be doing some of the things

1953
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,159
it's doing and it appears according to

1954
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,000
abby loeb now this is navi log not my

1955
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:56,000
belief but it's in his book he believes

1956
01:18:00,149 --> 01:17:58,000
that that thing was under some form of

1957
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:00,159
intelligent control as it flew through

1958
01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:02,880
our solar system and if that if that

1959
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:05,280
alone could be proven true

1960
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:07,840
that some some alien

1961
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:09,199
from you know

1962
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,600
whatever craft whatever it is under

1963
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:13,360
intelligent control

1964
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:15,679
is flying through our solar system that

1965
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,920
would be groundbreaking information if

1966
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:19,679
it could be proven 100

1967
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:22,880
now abby lowe believes that he it is 100

1968
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,800
well i don't even want to say he's 100

1969
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,880
certain because he does give the counter

1970
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:28,480
arguments and the possibilities that he

1971
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:31,280
could he admits i could be wrong but i

1972
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,520
strongly believe he words a lot of

1973
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:34,960
things like that i could be wrong but i

1974
01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:36,800
strongly believe that this is an

1975
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:39,120
extraterrestrial object or an object

1976
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:41,280
from another solar system that's under

1977
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,679
intelligent control that alone is

1978
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:45,440
amazing and yeah i have followed that

1979
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,800
but i'm a little

1980
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:48,480
yeah okay so let me i don't i don't

1981
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,800
really this new project is like

1982
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:52,239
yeah we're gonna try to bring you

1983
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:54,400
disclosure and we're going to put on the

1984
01:18:57,510 --> 01:18:55,679
same people that haven't brought us

1985
01:18:59,189 --> 01:18:57,520
disclosure but promised us it for five

1986
01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:59,199
years in the form of chris mellon and

1987
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,679
lou you know yeah and here's the deal it

1988
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:03,360
says here lou and i are both honored to

1989
01:19:08,229 --> 01:19:06,000
be part of the dr loeb galileo project

1990
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,239
now i happen to know quite a bit about

1991
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:10,000
the galileo project and how it was

1992
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,159
originally formed i'm not at liberty to

1993
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:13,679
tell you this right now but i will be

1994
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:15,040
talking about in the future but i can

1995
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,560
say this that i'm i'm a little

1996
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,400
suspicious

1997
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,400
that lou and melon would suddenly jump

1998
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:22,719
on board with this project i'm wondering

1999
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:23,440
uh

2000
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,960
a lot of things go through my head but

2001
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,480
are they a part of it to monitor the

2002
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:28,239
project to kind of control to continue

2003
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,080
to control the narrative that's what i

2004
01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:31,679
think i think they're handlers they're

2005
01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:33,360
going to make sure there you go this is

2006
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:35,600
going to any information released is

2007
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:37,920
going to be released when we won how we

2008
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:39,679
want and it's going to and it's going to

2009
01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:42,320
indicate or inform people what we want

2010
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,550
i'm concerned with them controlling the

2011
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:50,640
narrative yes exactly

2012
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,320
that's what they've been doing for years

2013
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:55,520
now now my my uh insider who i'll try to

2014
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:57,199
have you on your show sometime in the

2015
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:58,320
near future

2016
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,480
uh he says that's what he believes he

2017
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:02,320
believes that he was the one who

2018
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,000
actually contacted

2019
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:06,239
christopher nolan over there in stanford

2020
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:08,560
and also contacted the people at harvard

2021
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,800
and was giving them lots of information

2022
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:12,719
and then and then lo and behold they got

2023
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:14,400
interested and then they started

2024
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:16,960
formulating this this group and then now

2025
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,719
of course now that that i'm just

2026
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:20,159
assuming this and i'm not saying that

2027
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:22,000
this is what happened but lou and these

2028
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:23,600
guys are thinking oh this is legit these

2029
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,719
guys are serious they're really going to

2030
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,400
go forward with this we better get in

2031
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:27,600
there and make sure that things don't

2032
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,600
get uh too out of control here so yes

2033
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,360
we want to make sure that any

2034
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:35,440
information that they find

2035
01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:36,880
we can control

2036
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,960
we can decide what they can release or

2037
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,880
what they can't because

2038
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:43,199
i i don't believe for one minute that if

2039
01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:45,040
that project finds something let's say

2040
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,360
they find smoking gun evidence and proof

2041
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:49,280
that no one can deny that there's

2042
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:50,960
extraterrestrial spacecraft visiting

2043
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:52,480
earth let's say they find some kind of

2044
01:20:56,629 --> 01:20:54,719
information that is groundbreaking that

2045
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:56,639
is undeniable

2046
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,280
who's to say that lou and chris mellon

2047
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,920
or whoever isn't going to call up people

2048
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:03,600
who are going to swoop in and say this

2049
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:05,120
is national security you're going to

2050
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:06,719
create a panic if you let people know

2051
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:09,280
this you're not releasing this and step

2052
01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:10,719
on their nuts

2053
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:12,159
what are they going to do are they going

2054
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:13,920
to they're going to do what what they're

2055
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:16,320
told you know that's my concern

2056
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:18,719
i think that any project that's that has

2057
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,639
aims like that should remain completely

2058
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:21,760
100

2059
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,520
independent of the government and not

2060
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:25,120
use anybody that works for the

2061
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:27,360
government currently or used to and

2062
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:29,360
still has connections with intelligence

2063
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:30,239
you know

2064
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:32,400
right and then but here's the thing but

2065
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:34,159
and if you go back and like for example

2066
01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:37,280
the stanford uh research institute and

2067
01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:38,880
there's a guy that you may not ever

2068
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,960
heard of the name stanislav ojack he he

2069
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:43,040
was actually uh

2070
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,960
played the father role for stan romanek

2071
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:46,320
and he was one of the original people

2072
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:48,639
that worked in this in these programs

2073
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:50,960
with guys like russell targ and hal put

2074
01:21:55,669 --> 01:21:53,600
off back in the 70s um i was able to

2075
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,679
have a many conversations with him he

2076
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:57,440
there's a lot he won't tell me

2077
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,560
but um

2078
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:00,239
what i think okay here's what i believe

2079
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,719
is really happening is they don't mind

2080
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:04,320
telling people that there's probably

2081
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:06,719
ufos okay they've already done that uh

2082
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:08,239
they don't mind telling people that

2083
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,480
there's things in in anyway the point

2084
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:12,480
what they don't want to talk about what

2085
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:14,080
they don't want to have a conversation

2086
01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:16,639
about publicly is about the people that

2087
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:19,920
are experiencing the ufos and how is it

2088
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:21,840
affecting them physically

2089
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:24,880
mentally sociologically emotionally and

2090
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:26,800
and what is it doing to their brains i

2091
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:28,800
mean there's a study that's been done uh

2092
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:31,120
in stanford about what's happening to

2093
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:33,199
the brains of the experiencers as well

2094
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:34,639
as they're trying to figure it out at

2095
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:36,719
harvard and i can tell you right now

2096
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:39,679
that people in intelligence maybe not

2097
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,880
all of them but they don't want this

2098
01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:43,040
information out and it's my opinion that

2099
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:45,520
that's why lou and uh and melon are kind

2100
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:47,840
of making sure that uh that type of

2101
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:49,440
information isn't released yet it's a

2102
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:51,280
it's called a weathering they're going

2103
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:53,280
to give us disclosure but at their pace

2104
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:55,520
and it might be 20 30 40 50 years but

2105
01:22:58,870 --> 01:22:57,040
we're certainly not going to get any

2106
01:23:00,070 --> 01:22:58,880
real disclosure any time soon in my

2107
01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:00,080
opinion

2108
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:02,560
yeah i i agree with you i know i'm

2109
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:05,440
always kind of like i i i used to almost

2110
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:07,040
make fun of the people that are like

2111
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,199
disclosure's coming it's coming any day

2112
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,360
it's coming next year you know

2113
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:13,520
we're almost there but now i kind of

2114
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:14,800
feel sad for them because i think

2115
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:16,880
they're they're uh you know they got

2116
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:19,040
their faith and they got their hopes up

2117
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:20,880
but it seems like

2118
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:24,480
everything's a nothing burger you know

2119
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:26,000
okay so let's go on with this paragraph

2120
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:28,880
it says uh he says basically uh

2121
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:30,880
why not for example acknowledge that lou

2122
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:32,719
was right all along

2123
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:34,560
this is melon saying this thank him for

2124
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:37,440
his service and his sacrifice and offer

2125
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,560
him his old job back so why why do you

2126
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:42,480
think lou would want his old job back i

2127
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:44,800
mean let's speculate about that

2128
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:47,199
yeah and and you know those guys are

2129
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,400
like really really close friends so

2130
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,639
i don't think that uh mellon would have

2131
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,239
wrote written this without talking to

2132
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:56,560
lou about writing this of course so

2133
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:57,920
that's why i'm so

2134
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:00,080
this is very the whole this whole thing

2135
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:01,600
this whole letter thing is very

2136
01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:04,159
suspicious to me yeah but but then i

2137
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:06,080
thought it was just an effort to frame

2138
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:08,800
lou as a hero again you know he's the

2139
01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:12,159
hero of disclosure and you know he i i

2140
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:13,120
don't know

2141
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:14,960
but then you know what i

2142
01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:17,040
i sent this letter to uh your buddy john

2143
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,639
warner who i think is fantastic by the

2144
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:20,639
way yeah he gave us a statement and he

2145
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:22,239
gave us an official statement and

2146
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:23,840
everything you want to read that right

2147
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,120
now or otherwise i'll tell you what he

2148
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:27,600
told me go ahead okay let me let me read

2149
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,679
it one second just here with me let me

2150
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:31,600
uh let me get it okay and he's and he's

2151
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:33,040
the guy you had on that that's been on

2152
01:24:36,149 --> 01:24:34,639
multiple shows that said that's related

2153
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,159
to the melons uh right that's what we're

2154
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:38,800
talking about is christopher mellon's

2155
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:41,360
cousin first cousin right

2156
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:43,920
uh and remember john william warner his

2157
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:46,480
mother was a melon so right and his

2158
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:48,239
father was john

2159
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:49,280
warner

2160
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:52,239
uh the third correct uh and i always

2161
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:54,080
joke with john that he's illumi he's in

2162
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:56,239
the illuminati and his family is and he

2163
01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:58,159
he jokes back and forth with me great

2164
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,560
guy though um okay so this is an

2165
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:02,239
official statement from john william

2166
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:03,280
warner

2167
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,840
about this letter of christopher mellon

2168
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:07,760
uh john writes

2169
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,840
chris's letter is pathetic and wholly

2170
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:11,040
uncreative

2171
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:13,280
it's repetition of the same old story of

2172
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:14,800
spooks pretending to challenge the

2173
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:17,840
pentagon repetition is what joseph

2174
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:20,400
goebbels did in the nazi germany on the

2175
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:23,040
radio and in and in the newsreels the

2176
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,719
bigger the lie the more people will

2177
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:26,480
believe it and when you repeat the big

2178
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:29,520
lie you enforce subliminal programming

2179
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:31,760
he goes on to write chris and lou and

2180
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:34,239
the cia and dia know

2181
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:36,400
full well that most of the american

2182
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:38,840
public is asleep and understandably

2183
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,239
ignorant even the ufo twitter folks are

2184
01:25:47,669 --> 01:25:44,560
ninety percent on board with the melon

2185
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,679
uap message of bogus threats by my

2186
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:49,520
estimation

2187
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:51,440
john goes on to write this letter is a

2188
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:53,920
joke that's not funny at all the very

2189
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,520
future of the human race is in the

2190
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:57,600
balance but my cousin thinks the spooks

2191
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:00,400
know best yeah right

2192
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:02,239
yeah very well said

2193
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:04,639
and he referred to it uh he referred to

2194
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,560
i asked him what is this and he called

2195
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:09,120
it a high school mind games

2196
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:11,199
and i thought yeah yeah yeah i mean it

2197
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,800
is in a sense this this type of

2198
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:14,560
psychology

2199
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:16,400
is going to work on most people and then

2200
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,840
here's the deal they don't need it to

2201
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,520
work on everybody i mean let's just say

2202
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:21,360
your audience my audience and the

2203
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,800
audience of some of the other people

2204
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:24,080
that are kind of awake as to what's

2205
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:25,679
going on that's not a very large

2206
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:27,440
percentage of people as long as they can

2207
01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,880
fool the majority of the people that's

2208
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,080
all they care about they're not going to

2209
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:32,719
fool everybody

2210
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:35,280
yeah and we have chris johansen in the

2211
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,400
chat saying

2212
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:39,120
three blurry nothing videos all this bs

2213
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,920
is over those yeah i think that the you

2214
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:43,440
know they always say though well no

2215
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:45,520
they're super clear hd ones that the

2216
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,560
government will show us those you know

2217
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,800
instead we get the blurry ass you know

2218
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:52,400
garbage that looks like it was taken on

2219
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:55,679
a track phone from 1996. you know right

2220
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,400
right yeah exactly i mean i could tell

2221
01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:00,239
you uh i don't know if you saw the video

2222
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:02,560
that uh arcturus raw and i filmed out

2223
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,199
there in vernal uh utah

2224
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:07,040
i mean that was a legit video i mean

2225
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:08,719
that was pretty better quality that was

2226
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,440
better quality than it did thank you

2227
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:13,440
than the navy videos you know much

2228
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,159
better quality i i was still to this day

2229
01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:18,320
trying to figure out i even asked dodie

2230
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:20,080
i said is it possible that that could

2231
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:22,000
have been our technology and and if it

2232
01:27:25,669 --> 01:27:24,080
was why would they be flying it over

2233
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:25,679
there over in that mountainous area

2234
01:27:28,390 --> 01:27:27,040
where i mean what would be the point of

2235
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:28,400
that i was just trying to understand why

2236
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,840
they do why would they even need to be

2237
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:31,760
out there and testing something like

2238
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:35,199
that in in in the view of anybody and he

2239
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:36,800
didn't really have a good response he

2240
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,800
wasn't sure why but but then i did some

2241
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:40,320
more research and i talked to some of

2242
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:41,840
the people that live in the area where

2243
01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:43,840
we believe the the object was actually

2244
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:45,120
hovering over

2245
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:46,719
and there were people that i talked to

2246
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:48,719
that lived in the area that said that

2247
01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,120
they have seen these things before this

2248
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:53,199
is not unusual for them and they didn't

2249
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,800
think that these were objects that they

2250
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:56,639
were ours that they they believed they

2251
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:58,639
were not ours so i couldn't prove that

2252
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:01,280
i'm just telling you what i was told

2253
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,040
so yeah thank you for what it's worth

2254
01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:05,040
authorizes mention considering the three

2255
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:06,639
triangle craft were out of focus

2256
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:09,440
aircraft with faa lights thanks corbell

2257
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:11,840
for the nothing burger yeah yeah

2258
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:13,920
you know i love the mental gymnastics

2259
01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:15,920
that corbell and others that believed

2260
01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:18,320
him had to do to turn that into some

2261
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:20,639
kind of pyramid ufo

2262
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:23,679
uh you know that was clearly had faa

2263
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:26,159
lights you know and and uh mick west i

2264
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:29,600
think is dead on i even uh i even have i

2265
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:31,840
don't have the proper equipment but i

2266
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:34,159
have a friend who has one of those night

2267
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:36,639
vision goggles with with the same kind

2268
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:39,600
of aperture and he went to an airport

2269
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:41,679
and set the aperture at the triangle and

2270
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:44,320
it looks exactly in any films airplanes

2271
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:46,639
taking off and landing at a regular

2272
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,199
commercial airport and it looked exactly

2273
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:51,520
like corbell's video yeah the triangle

2274
01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:53,440
it looked like the triangle ufo videos

2275
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:55,920
that corbell put out in green you know

2276
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:57,360
because well and here's here's what

2277
01:29:02,070 --> 01:28:59,600
could be happening also it could be that

2278
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,080
that those videos were not technically

2279
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,320
faked but they were made to look real

2280
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:06,000
for example and

2281
01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:08,080
by by putting out videos that then are

2282
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:10,080
easily to in other words it could have

2283
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:11,840
been that either jeremy knowingly or

2284
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:14,159
unknowingly was used to put out shitty

2285
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:16,159
videos so that it could be so they could

2286
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,360
further debunk him but but in the in my

2287
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:21,360
opinion in the reality there really are

2288
01:29:24,470 --> 01:29:23,280
these types of craft out there that are

2289
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:24,480
not uh

2290
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,560
bocas i mean if mick west tries to tell

2291
01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:28,560
me they're all bocas he could kiss my

2292
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:30,000
ass

2293
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:31,840
yeah no i agree with you i agree with

2294
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:33,120
you and and

2295
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:34,960
wes and i agree on some things i keep

2296
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:37,440
having i keep i gotta i gotta message

2297
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:39,280
him again because i yeah i try to get

2298
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:41,120
him on the show a few times

2299
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:43,600
largely though eric i think we need

2300
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,000
people like mick west we need these guys

2301
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:49,199
to go and say no this is [\h__\h] and i

2302
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:51,280
have a problem with people attacking him

2303
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:53,120
so viciously

2304
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:54,480
when he's right

2305
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:56,159
a lot of the times you know he's not

2306
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:57,760
right every time i'm not saying he's

2307
01:30:02,149 --> 01:29:59,760
right every time but especially that

2308
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:02,159
pyramid pyramid ufo

2309
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:05,199
that's boca and people test it and

2310
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:07,920
exact to corbell's videos and and me i

2311
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:09,760
don't understand people being vilifying

2312
01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,600
him or being nasty to him because it's

2313
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:13,280
like do you just want to believe that

2314
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:15,280
fake [\h__\h] is real or do you want to know

2315
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:16,960
it's okay i'll tell you no it's fake you

2316
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,960
know i'll tell you why i get on his case

2317
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:21,120
personally is because

2318
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:23,120
first of all he's kind of arrogant he

2319
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:25,280
comes across like he knows everything

2320
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:27,600
and if he is wrong or if he might be

2321
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:30,000
wrong or if he's speculating he tends to

2322
01:30:33,270 --> 01:30:31,840
slant it in such a way where it's like

2323
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,280
no what i'm telling you is fact the rest

2324
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:35,120
of your idiots just trust just trust me

2325
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,360
this is what it is so i don't like that

2326
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:39,280
style of how he puts but the other thing

2327
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:40,880
that that irritates me about him is if

2328
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:43,280
you go on his website and he's he's

2329
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:44,560
touched on this briefly in other

2330
01:30:48,310 --> 01:30:46,639
interviews he talks about the the

2331
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:48,320
chemtrail planes have you ever seen that

2332
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:50,480
part of his website the chemtrail plane

2333
01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:51,679
no okay

2334
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:54,159
well i i happen to be a 100 believer

2335
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:56,080
that they're spraying [\h__\h] in the sky i

2336
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:58,239
don't know what it is

2337
01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:01,199
no eric is a chemtrail believer no i i'm

2338
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:02,719
totally convinced of it because i see

2339
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:04,080
him all the time where i live i don't

2340
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:05,040
know if you're seeing him where you are

2341
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:07,280
but i i see him all the time i mean it's

2342
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:09,040
it's not uh it's not every day though

2343
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:11,360
it's not like there's any pattern to it

2344
01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:13,199
but uh okay let's go let me bring reason

2345
01:31:16,229 --> 01:31:14,480
why i brought this up i want you to

2346
01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:16,239
think about this for a second remember

2347
01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:17,760
how dodie was you guys were talking

2348
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:19,360
earlier when dodie was on about how

2349
01:31:23,189 --> 01:31:20,960
they've got they could put stuff in the

2350
01:31:24,790 --> 01:31:23,199
in the air and then they could reflect a

2351
01:31:26,629 --> 01:31:24,800
holographic projection off those

2352
01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:26,639
particles that's kind of their their

2353
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:29,360
background so it could it be possible

2354
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,960
and then there he also mentioned whether

2355
01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:33,440
it's true or not i can't verify but that

2356
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:35,440
these e.t had a hard time breathing our

2357
01:31:38,470 --> 01:31:36,239
air

2358
01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:38,480
so maybe i mean this is a total reach

2359
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:40,639
right now but maybe if they are spraying

2360
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:43,040
oh no there's a totally make it nicer

2361
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:45,360
for the aliens here right or either

2362
01:31:49,510 --> 01:31:47,280
nicer or make it harder maybe it's a

2363
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,520
defense uh program where they figure if

2364
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:51,040
they spray this [\h__\h] in the air the

2365
01:31:54,149 --> 01:31:52,480
aliens won't come because they can't

2366
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:54,159
breed the [\h__\h] and maybe their

2367
01:32:07,110 --> 01:31:55,679
technology doesn't work as well i mean

2368
01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:09,189
alien aerosols in the air to keep the

2369
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:11,360
aliens from visiting is that you never

2370
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:13,360
know you wonder why else would they be

2371
01:32:16,550 --> 01:32:15,280
doing it i mean what would be the point

2372
01:32:18,070 --> 01:32:16,560
of it i don't really understand why they

2373
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:18,080
need to spray that [\h__\h] in there i don't

2374
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:19,840
believe that they're solving the global

2375
01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:21,520
warming issue by spraying chemicals in

2376
01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:22,880
the air you're not going to convince me

2377
01:32:26,470 --> 01:32:24,800
of that i don't know

2378
01:32:28,390 --> 01:32:26,480
but anyway let's move on let's move on

2379
01:32:30,550 --> 01:32:28,400
to the rest of this article here uh so

2380
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:30,560
it says here um

2381
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:34,320
uh osd's uh petty argument who is ost

2382
01:32:37,669 --> 01:32:35,760
office of uh

2383
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:37,679
office of what osd what does that stand

2384
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:40,080
for i gotta look that up i don't know

2385
01:32:45,430 --> 01:32:42,719
yeah osd government office there's so

2386
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:45,440
much i call this alphabet soup agencies

2387
01:32:50,470 --> 01:32:46,800
yeah there's just some because you got

2388
01:32:54,310 --> 01:32:50,480
the cia the bia the osb

2389
01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:54,320
the dod the pip the pop the p-o-o-p

2390
01:32:57,350 --> 01:32:55,440
whatever

2391
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:57,360
but yeah okay so it says here

2392
01:33:01,990 --> 01:32:58,800
that's the office of secretary of

2393
01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:02,000
defense there you go uh of osd's petty

2394
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:04,159
argument expressed through osd spokesman

2395
01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:07,040
susan goff is that there was a

2396
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:10,239
no formal funding for uap uap research

2397
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:12,960
after 2012. so how could lou have been

2398
01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:15,199
the director of a uap investigation

2399
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:17,440
effort as he claims

2400
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:19,840
this makes sense to some bureaucrats who

2401
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:22,000
think only in terms of money never mind

2402
01:33:26,149 --> 01:33:24,239
the fact that lou was bootstrapping the

2403
01:33:27,350 --> 01:33:26,159
effort for years with available time and

2404
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:27,360
resources

2405
01:33:31,189 --> 01:33:28,880
collaborating with the navy to

2406
01:33:34,149 --> 01:33:31,199
investigate the issue promoting uh inter

2407
01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:34,159
agency investigative activity in general

2408
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:35,920
investing extraordinary amounts of time

2409
01:33:40,149 --> 01:33:37,360
and energy and doing everything he could

2410
01:33:42,390 --> 01:33:40,159
with the limited resources available uh

2411
01:33:46,390 --> 01:33:42,400
we'll just stop there i mean uh

2412
01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:47,990
again i think it all boils down to

2413
01:33:52,149 --> 01:33:50,239
whoever susan goes team that she belongs

2414
01:33:55,030 --> 01:33:52,159
to is not part of the team that the the

2415
01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:55,040
lou and the in the melbourne team

2416
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:57,120
they got their own team eric they're

2417
01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:58,320
actually they're kind of it's kind of

2418
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,800
like political uh intelligence trolls

2419
01:34:03,910 --> 01:34:02,080
going at it you know they're kind of

2420
01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,920
trolling each other and we all get to

2421
01:34:06,709 --> 01:34:05,520
witness it and we got to figure out

2422
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:06,719
who's telling the truth and who's

2423
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:08,320
[\h__\h] and maybe they're both

2424
01:34:11,910 --> 01:34:10,080
bullshitting into a degree it could be

2425
01:34:13,750 --> 01:34:11,920
that you know that one one group wants

2426
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:13,760
to control the narrative and gets more

2427
01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:15,600
money by being in charge or the other

2428
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:18,480
group you know who knows it's bs they're

2429
01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:20,880
very they're very competitive just like

2430
01:34:25,030 --> 01:34:23,120
all ufo people you know

2431
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:25,040
i have the truth those guys are just

2432
01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:28,560
information agents exactly exactly it's

2433
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,000
a big problem

2434
01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:32,800
you know i especially like uh recently

2435
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:35,120
corey goode tells everybody that only i

2436
01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:37,440
have the real information everybody else

2437
01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:39,360
is a disinformation agent trying to

2438
01:34:46,629 --> 01:34:44,629
and all the real information that he put

2439
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,639
out exactly a year ago that i that i

2440
01:34:50,709 --> 01:34:48,639
sent you the link

2441
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:50,719
none of it was true right

2442
01:34:53,510 --> 01:34:52,400
yeah we did a whole show on it yeah this

2443
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:53,520
guy's talking

2444
01:34:59,750 --> 01:34:57,520
extraterrestrials and future humanoids

2445
01:35:01,750 --> 01:34:59,760
that live in the honeycomb earth and

2446
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:01,760
he's getting briefings

2447
01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:04,639
and all this [\h__\h] is wrong it was all

2448
01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:06,320
wrong none of the [\h__\h] that he said

2449
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:07,360
would happen

2450
01:35:12,390 --> 01:35:09,600
last year happened not one thing that he

2451
01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:12,400
said out of this yeah and we we have

2452
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:14,320
and we have guys like david wilcock to

2453
01:35:18,390 --> 01:35:16,320
thanks uh for for these types of uh

2454
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:18,400
people that that he set the in my

2455
01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:20,159
opinion maybe there was somebody

2456
01:35:24,310 --> 01:35:21,840
probably before him i'm not sure who it

2457
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:24,320
was but wilcock has set the president a

2458
01:35:29,109 --> 01:35:26,480
precedent by by proving that you could

2459
01:35:30,709 --> 01:35:29,119
just continually lie and be wrong but

2460
01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:30,719
but if you're charismatic about it and

2461
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:32,719
you and you present your [\h__\h] with

2462
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:34,480
confidence you're always going to have a

2463
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:35,760
percentage of idiots they're going to

2464
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:37,920
pay you regardless you know that's just

2465
01:35:40,870 --> 01:35:39,600
how it is it's ridiculous but that's

2466
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,880
what it is

2467
01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:42,880
yeah you know i can i can i could show

2468
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:44,800
you something interesting

2469
01:35:50,149 --> 01:35:47,440
uh let let me find this uh because i

2470
01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:50,159
believe that we we have located

2471
01:35:54,790 --> 01:35:51,520
um

2472
01:35:57,109 --> 01:35:54,800
you know uh david wilcock moved recently

2473
01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:57,119
he's always moving to new

2474
01:36:01,830 --> 01:35:58,639
bigger better

2475
01:36:03,430 --> 01:36:01,840
uh mansions now i i will freely admit

2476
01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:03,440
that uh i have

2477
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:06,000
not finished my research into this but

2478
01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:07,679
let's uh let's take a look at this

2479
01:36:10,870 --> 01:36:09,119
you're going to like this all right

2480
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:10,880
you're gonna like this

2481
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,320
um and i'm about 80 or 90

2482
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:16,560
sure that this is this is accurate

2483
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:18,000
information

2484
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:20,080
well i was i was at his house

2485
01:36:25,109 --> 01:36:22,960
here is according to this is supposed to

2486
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:25,119
be david wilcox that is not his home i

2487
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:26,560
promise you that

2488
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:27,920
all right let's get him up there then

2489
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:32,950
he lives in that

2490
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:37,280
source that gave me that and said that's

2491
01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:39,679
where david wilcock is living in in uh

2492
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:41,760
where is it it's it's in uh put it back

2493
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:43,040
up there put it back up there let me see

2494
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:44,719
the neighborhood again if you don't hold

2495
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:46,320
on one second it doesn't really show the

2496
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:47,920
neighborhood you know

2497
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,639
uh this it's in sedona arizona which he

2498
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:52,480
did mention that's where he's living in

2499
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:54,960
the in the most recent of his of his

2500
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:56,159
videos

2501
01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:58,719
and uh this is a bigger mansion than the

2502
01:37:02,709 --> 01:37:01,280
last one if this is really his house no

2503
01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:02,719
that's not that that's not the

2504
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:04,320
neighborhood okay so yeah i'll tell you

2505
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:05,760
why i know this

2506
01:37:09,109 --> 01:37:07,520
so uh you i don't know if you remember a

2507
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:09,119
guy named reverend john paul he and i

2508
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:10,480
used to do this show called the quantum

2509
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:12,239
hologram matrix do you remember those

2510
01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:13,679
yeah and i've listened to some of that

2511
01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:16,239
stuff yeah yeah like him so he lives in

2512
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:17,679
he lives in sedona he's been there for a

2513
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:19,840
few years now whenever i go there we and

2514
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,840
i hang out together so and he knows

2515
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:23,920
everybody in town i mean he's he knows

2516
01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:26,000
everybody literally so one of the guys

2517
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:27,679
that's his one of his best friends lives

2518
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:29,280
in this gated community right up the

2519
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:32,080
road from where he lives and this guy

2520
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:34,080
i was at the house hanging out with polk

2521
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:35,920
and we just we're telling our stories as

2522
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:38,400
usual and he says oh yeah david wilcock

2523
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:41,280
he's my neighbor and i said what

2524
01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:42,880
i said

2525
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:46,719
by and hang out i just i just want to

2526
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:48,880
just i just want to see he goes yeah

2527
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:51,040
come on over so he gave me the gate code

2528
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,800
to the little gated community and like

2529
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:54,400
we went over there

2530
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:56,320
and i even made a little video about it

2531
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:57,679
one night we were all drinking got a

2532
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,360
little buzz and i was running around the

2533
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:01,280
neighborhood doing in search of in

2534
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:03,280
search of david wilcock and

2535
01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:05,119
and so i didn't show his home on the

2536
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:06,320
video because i didn't i don't want to

2537
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:07,920
totally blow the guy's cover but but

2538
01:38:11,590 --> 01:38:09,679
yeah i know where he lives and you know

2539
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:11,600
who else lives on the same block you're

2540
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,000
not going to believe this is sarah adams

2541
01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:18,000
oh it's like the great it's like a

2542
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:19,679
that'd be a funny block to live on

2543
01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:21,600
imagine if they had a block party oh

2544
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:23,360
yeah they could all show each other

2545
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,159
their crystals and [\h__\h] but sarah

2546
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:28,159
sarah's uh sarah's always very cool to

2547
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:41,510
i think she drinks because it's funny no

2548
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,960
she don't drink she's not a drinker i

2549
01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:44,480
can tell you that much she's like every

2550
01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:46,400
couple of weeks it seems like she gets

2551
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,520
she gets like uh you know uh something

2552
01:38:54,229 --> 01:38:51,520
something up her ass and then she's on

2553
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:54,239
twitter threatening me to sue me and

2554
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,719
listen you know taj i told taj that

2555
01:39:00,790 --> 01:38:58,800
would be extremely bad idea for her

2556
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:00,800
because if she's no i i told her too

2557
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,719
i also recommend me though listen if she

2558
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:04,560
were to sue me i would get subpoena

2559
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:05,440
power

2560
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,040
i told her

2561
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:09,119
i would subpoena all her emails between

2562
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:11,440
her and her clients all her messages her

2563
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:12,800
text messages

2564
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,360
and it would all become public so i told

2565
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,440
her i told her to ignore you just so you

2566
01:39:20,310 --> 01:39:18,719
know

2567
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,320
that was my advice to her as a friend i

2568
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:22,480
said look just just ignore him and he'll

2569
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:24,560
stop bugging he says ridiculous things

2570
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:26,560
eric she says like the fbi is going to

2571
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:29,360
investigate me for what i agree i hear

2572
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:30,880
you i hear you

2573
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,400
she's just trying to scare me and shut

2574
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:34,320
me up and honestly i haven't talked

2575
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,840
about her

2576
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:37,040
no

2577
01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:43,600
lot of people think she is i mean

2578
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:44,639
anyway

2579
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:46,639
she's a piece of [\h__\h] eric yeah well

2580
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,159
i'll tell you okay

2581
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:49,760
other people might have an experience of

2582
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:51,679
her different from mine i if she was if

2583
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:53,280
she treated me bad or i thought she was

2584
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,960
blatantly lying to my face i would be no

2585
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:56,639
i would have no problem telling you that

2586
01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:58,800
right now but i haven't i haven't had

2587
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,920
that experience so it's not right it

2588
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,679
wouldn't be right for me to just throw

2589
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:03,280
her under the bus let me ask you a

2590
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:04,800
question all right

2591
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:06,880
you you've been very supportive of her

2592
01:40:11,030 --> 01:40:08,880
if you're friendly with her like do you

2593
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:11,040
think that it is that is morally and

2594
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:13,760
ethically or even legally okay that

2595
01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:16,159
she's selling people 250 dollar med beds

2596
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:17,199
telling them that they're going to go

2597
01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:20,080
through a stargate up to a spaceship and

2598
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:22,320
lay in a med bed hold on i didn't know

2599
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,000
that i didn't know that she had access

2600
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:26,560
and then and then at the end of the the

2601
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,880
text where she's pitching this med bed

2602
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:30,960
session she admits that it's just a

2603
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,440
skype call so throughout the the sales

2604
01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:35,040
pitch it says you're going to go through

2605
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:36,480
a stargate you're going to go up to a

2606
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,600
spaceship you're going to meet the

2607
01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:39,600
extraterrestrials you're going to have a

2608
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:42,080
med bed session and then at the bottom

2609
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:44,560
it's like this little disclaimer like a

2610
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,920
skype session

2611
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:47,600
how the hell are you going to a stargate

2612
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:49,600
up to a spaceship during a

2613
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:51,840
skype session right okay you know what

2614
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:53,360
all right

2615
01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:55,119
i can't argue i won't argue with you on

2616
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:56,960
that one because you know what she i got

2617
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:58,719
to give her this what what what she's

2618
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:00,880
doing or not doing she is a very good

2619
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:03,520
marketing person i won't say that much

2620
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:05,119
you know and here's the other thing you

2621
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:07,760
know maybe maybe things are not totally

2622
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:10,159
on the up and up possibly but

2623
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:11,920
it doesn't appear that she has a lot of

2624
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,760
detractors at least people that are

2625
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:15,679
paying her money i don't see them

2626
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,840
joining together and like they do for

2627
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:19,760
corey good and david wilcock and henry

2628
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:21,360
smith and these clowns where they just

2629
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:23,440
want to basically lynch those guys

2630
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:24,719
there's no one out there really trying

2631
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,920
to lynch her

2632
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:27,679
you know what i mean yeah pix has an

2633
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:29,119
interesting question for you he says

2634
01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:31,119
eric tell camby and why you originally

2635
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:33,119
started your podcast

2636
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:35,440
uh which one the altered podcast or the

2637
01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:37,119
one with dodie coming up

2638
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:39,199
the altered well any of them why are you

2639
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,199
well the altered okay so the altered one

2640
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:42,800
that we're doing with vinnie is because

2641
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:44,639
uh and by the way i'm gonna be a guest

2642
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:46,960
on on eric's yeah yeah that'll be great

2643
01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:48,320
we're gonna we're gonna talk about a lot

2644
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,760
of stuff uh that'll be a lot of fun

2645
01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:52,080
that'll be uh next saturday like uh

2646
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:54,080
eight days from now yeah the randy

2647
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:56,719
kramer story too yeah randy kramer uh i

2648
01:41:59,590 --> 01:41:58,320
think i've told you this story privately

2649
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,600
but maybe your listeners haven't heard

2650
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:01,920
that so i've had many times where i hung

2651
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:03,760
out with randy we we've had some drinks

2652
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:06,239
and partied a little bit

2653
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:07,679
at john paul

2654
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,600
did he show you his superpowers because

2655
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:11,280
you know he can teach other people to

2656
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,280
have superpowers so i would think he

2657
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:15,760
could have shown you his superpowers

2658
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,840
yeah well

2659
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,440
i don't know why he chose to tell me

2660
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:21,600
this story but at some i was kind of

2661
01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:23,360
trying to

2662
01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:24,239
uh

2663
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,639
of dig into some stuff that i probably

2664
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:30,239
wouldn't wanted to do live on the air

2665
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:31,679
because i don't think he would answer

2666
01:42:37,109 --> 01:42:34,080
some of the questions i was asking him

2667
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:37,119
did you see eric he was on another show

2668
01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:40,320
uh uh this experiencer support network

2669
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:43,119
uh tessa the experiencer support network

2670
01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:45,119
he was on that that guy's show ryan show

2671
01:42:49,030 --> 01:42:46,880
and and we're friendly ryan was a guest

2672
01:42:50,870 --> 01:42:49,040
of mine previously so i went into live

2673
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,880
chat and i started asking questions and

2674
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:52,560
he lost his mind and started yelling and

2675
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:54,960
screaming and cursing

2676
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:57,440
it was glorious yeah you know he claims

2677
01:43:01,750 --> 01:43:00,000
that he was a marine and a navy seal at

2678
01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:01,760
the same time yeah that's impossible

2679
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:03,440
that's impossible but go ahead i'm sorry

2680
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:07,280
i mean no i mean here's the deal is uh

2681
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:09,520
he told me about his experiences with it

2682
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:12,000
with acid and lsd back in the day and

2683
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:14,080
and and he described how he went on this

2684
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:16,080
mission for 30 days where

2685
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:17,760
you know one day he would take a certain

2686
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:19,760
amount and then the next day he would

2687
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,560
take

2688
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:22,719
some more and then the next day some

2689
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,040
more even more on top of the more and

2690
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:27,840
and just the way he described it i mean

2691
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:30,000
i don't i'm thinking it's possible that

2692
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:31,600
during these experiences that he was

2693
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,560
having on these psychedelic drugs that

2694
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,560
that he might have imagined or

2695
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:39,119
potentially had some experiences that

2696
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,760
were psychedelic that later when he kind

2697
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:43,520
of came out of the stupor of being under

2698
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,560
the uh

2699
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:46,239
the influence of

2700
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:48,880
acid that he maybe internalized it and

2701
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:51,360
thought it was real and so in his mind

2702
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:53,360
maybe some of this shit's real but i

2703
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:55,040
don't know but i'll tell you what

2704
01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:57,360
cramer's a much better uh

2705
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:58,400
uh

2706
01:44:02,149 --> 01:44:00,960
storyteller than than corey by a long

2707
01:44:04,629 --> 01:44:02,159
shot corey

2708
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:04,639
is the worst freaking story but brandon

2709
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:06,639
kramer's mars story sounds like he

2710
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,480
watched too much of that star trip

2711
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:10,800
starship troopers movies yeah yeah

2712
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:13,199
because and then he even he even talks

2713
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:14,639
about the weapons like somebody asked

2714
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:16,560
about the weapons that they used yeah

2715
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,560
and he was he was uh

2716
01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:20,239
telling people that that he was using

2717
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:22,560
weapons that are in the video game quake

2718
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:25,199
i swear to god i swear to god like

2719
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:26,960
same exact weapons that are in the video

2720
01:44:30,470 --> 01:44:28,960
game quake he was telling people that

2721
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:30,480
they were using in the secret space

2722
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:33,280
program on mars it's kind of funny

2723
01:44:36,629 --> 01:44:34,960
i'll tell you uh i'll tell you something

2724
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:36,639
i wanted to know uh what are the names

2725
01:44:41,950 --> 01:44:39,440
of eric's to eric's two podcasts okay so

2726
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:41,960
tomorrow night uh is it's called altered

2727
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:44,719
a-l-t-e-r-e-d with vinnie cosius uh

2728
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:46,320
we've done three shows so far richard

2729
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:47,920
doty was one of the shows we did a

2730
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:50,320
couple shows back this so we actually uh

2731
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:51,679
vinnie wanted to interview that guy that

2732
01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:54,400
you had on uh that that did the alien

2733
01:44:59,189 --> 01:44:56,480
art and remember that guy the alien

2734
01:45:01,990 --> 01:44:59,199
archive richard mcgill i think yeah

2735
01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:02,000
i'll get her in he would love it no we

2736
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:04,000
we actually interviewed him already we

2737
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:08,950
did you show you the shrimp the alien

2738
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:11,199
shrimp that the aliens gave him

2739
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:13,040
i told the guy i told the guy that i

2740
01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:14,719
thought he was a nice guy that i didn't

2741
01:45:17,990 --> 01:45:16,239
have a problem with this personality or

2742
01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:18,000
anything but but that i i couldn't

2743
01:45:21,910 --> 01:45:19,679
really take a bite out of his story i

2744
01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:21,920
just wasn't quite feeling it but yeah me

2745
01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:24,000
neither but but i wasn't gonna call him

2746
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:26,000
a liar or a fraud because but but you

2747
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,360
know who knows you know it's one of

2748
01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:29,520
those things well you know what with me

2749
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:31,440
that guy was one of those guys that like

2750
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:34,560
he he kept he kept emailing me and and

2751
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:37,199
saying all these things and you gotta

2752
01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:38,320
you gotta let me on your show you gotta

2753
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:40,880
let me on your show and what happened

2754
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:43,280
in hindsight is always 20 20. if i had

2755
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:45,040
known the guy's whole story i should

2756
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:46,960
have talked to him for a half hour

2757
01:45:51,669 --> 01:45:49,520
before i interviewed him but i didn't

2758
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:51,679
and then when he comes on he starts with

2759
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:53,360
all this stuff and it was like such a

2760
01:45:57,910 --> 01:45:55,280
nothing burger i felt stupid for

2761
01:46:00,629 --> 01:45:57,920
bringing it to my audience but uh you

2762
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:00,639
know you you live and you learn you know

2763
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:02,480
you learn and then

2764
01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:03,920
you know this is one of those things

2765
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:05,440
that's like

2766
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:07,199
well that was you know one of those

2767
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,639
interviews where you just go i

2768
01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:10,480
interviewed a weird interesting person

2769
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:11,520
people can

2770
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:13,280
you know and we and that audience had

2771
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,320
fun because there were people in the

2772
01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:16,480
areas like this is horse [\h__\h] bro that's

2773
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:17,440
not

2774
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,320
you know

2775
01:46:22,550 --> 01:46:20,320
he couldn't explain

2776
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:22,560
how the aliens are doing this artwork or

2777
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:25,199
anything he had no you know like he just

2778
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:27,040
it sounded like he he

2779
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:28,400
are you still there

2780
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:30,320
yes i'm here

2781
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,400
sound like a good idea for his story but

2782
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:35,360
he never he didn't yeah yeah enough

2783
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:37,360
before he started telling his stories

2784
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:39,040
you know

2785
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:41,199
yeah he's he's interesting but yeah well

2786
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:42,880
we talked to him for about an hour and

2787
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:44,560
then we did a little 10 minute wrap up

2788
01:46:47,590 --> 01:46:45,679
and then

2789
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:47,600
yeah i i don't want to dog the guy i

2790
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,480
mean

2791
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:50,080
being you know you know how it is well

2792
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:51,600
your your approach is probably a little

2793
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:53,440
different than mine i i try to always

2794
01:46:56,550 --> 01:46:54,880
just give people the benefit of doubt

2795
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:56,560
but internally i may or may not believe

2796
01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:58,560
what they're telling me but i liked your

2797
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:00,560
style too i mean you'll knock somebody

2798
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:06,550
you have to right yeah you know you're

2799
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:08,000
the guy that's gonna knock the guy

2800
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:09,679
between the eyes i might be the guy

2801
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,440
that'll bring bro grab him by the hand

2802
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:13,040
and sit him in the chair in front of you

2803
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:14,400
and then you can knock him out after

2804
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:18,709
yeah we got a whole new approach right

2805
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:21,360
actually i i saw i can't remember i feel

2806
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:22,560
bad now because i can't remember the

2807
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:24,400
name of the podcast but there's a

2808
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:26,159
podcast i'm going to look it up and i'll

2809
01:47:30,550 --> 01:47:27,679
i'm going to let my audience know about

2810
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:30,560
it because they have two hosts they have

2811
01:47:35,830 --> 01:47:33,280
a true believer and they have a total

2812
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:35,840
skeptic and they bring one guest on and

2813
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:37,760
the two of them grill the guy

2814
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:39,360
whoever the guest is and it's kind of a

2815
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:40,960
good way to i thought well that's a good

2816
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:43,119
way to do this because you have you have

2817
01:47:46,790 --> 01:47:45,040
both sides of the coin you know

2818
01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:46,800
yeah but you know you're only going to

2819
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:48,560
get so many people to agree to do that

2820
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:49,600
you know what i mean you're going to

2821
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:51,760
kind of limit your your guest selection

2822
01:47:54,870 --> 01:47:53,199
but let me tell you a story that dodie

2823
01:47:56,229 --> 01:47:54,880
told me but and i've got to kind of

2824
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:56,239
filter it a little bit because i don't

2825
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,239
really have permission to say this so he

2826
01:48:01,669 --> 01:48:00,239
might be there

2827
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,679
but i will i will okay i'll tell you

2828
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:03,600
this this this is not really a secret

2829
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:04,880
maybe it is but

2830
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:07,440
but gaia they they uh

2831
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:09,040
they've got a guy

2832
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:12,000
who does they they do uh lie detector

2833
01:48:16,830 --> 01:48:13,760
tests for everybody and we're talking

2834
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:16,840
literally david wilcock corey goode jay

2835
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:19,520
widener uh richard doty uh all these

2836
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:21,520
guys that are on there now emery smith

2837
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:23,679
uh randy kramer i mean they all have to

2838
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:25,760
pass lie detector tests apparently i

2839
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:27,360
don't know if it was that way

2840
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,480
uh in the very beginning but as a result

2841
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:32,320
they gave jason rice a lot of times

2842
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:33,360
exactly

2843
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:34,159
now

2844
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:36,239
i want to see i want to see who the lie

2845
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:38,719
detector company is exactly

2846
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,960
who and i want to see the charts they

2847
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:42,719
won't release any of them i called and

2848
01:48:45,830 --> 01:48:44,560
checked

2849
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:45,840
they said no we're not releasing

2850
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:48,480
anything to you exactly so it's based on

2851
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:51,280
what i was told my uh interpretation

2852
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:52,880
this is not what richard dodie said this

2853
01:48:58,149 --> 01:48:54,960
is my interpretation is that

2854
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,159
if some if somebody knew how they could

2855
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:00,480
beat this test

2856
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:02,639
that's all i could yeah yeah and then

2857
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:04,320
there's various ways

2858
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:08,480
pass the lie detector test one way that

2859
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:10,960
i've heard is to take a mild sedative

2860
01:49:15,589 --> 01:49:13,440
before the test and there's other ways

2861
01:49:18,070 --> 01:49:15,599
that i've heard and read and researched

2862
01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:18,080
because i was interested in that in that

2863
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:20,560
myself because you know so many times in

2864
01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:22,560
the ufo field people take a lie detector

2865
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,000
and if they pass it people think that's

2866
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:26,800
case closed and i'm still

2867
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:29,440
i'm still skeptical like yeah well maybe

2868
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:32,159
he passed but is this test and then you

2869
01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:33,280
know there's a reason they're not

2870
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:35,199
admissible in court i think they're very

2871
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:37,280
quick i think they're good investigative

2872
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:40,560
tools yeah example for example somebody

2873
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:43,040
stole from my grandparents once

2874
01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:44,960
uh this is a great story so somebody

2875
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:47,280
steals my grandparents were polish

2876
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:49,119
immigrants and they saved silver

2877
01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:52,000
everything meaning any coins silver

2878
01:49:57,589 --> 01:49:54,840
dollars half dollars any coins before

2879
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:57,599
1964. and they had something crazy like

2880
01:50:02,070 --> 01:50:00,480
150 pounds of these coins in their attic

2881
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:02,080
and somebody stole it and it was

2882
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:04,400
obviously a family member so the police

2883
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:06,480
came in and they polygraphed everybody

2884
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:09,679
and then they they found out who it was

2885
01:50:14,470 --> 01:50:12,400
based on the polygraphs because you know

2886
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:14,480
they let's say they they tested six

2887
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:15,599
people

2888
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:17,679
in our family and this is a long time

2889
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:20,239
ago i was a child right but they tested

2890
01:50:23,589 --> 01:50:22,000
six people in our family five people

2891
01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:23,599
passed with flying colors and one

2892
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:26,239
indicated deception so when they got the

2893
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:28,560
the one who was one of my uncles that

2894
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:29,920
indicated deception they started

2895
01:50:33,109 --> 01:50:31,840
grilling him and he broke down and

2896
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:33,119
admitted what he did and said he would

2897
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:34,320
give them

2898
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,760
the silver back

2899
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:37,360
right and that was a big deal in our

2900
01:50:41,669 --> 01:50:39,280
family because now we've got somebody

2901
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:41,679
stealing from my elderly grandparents

2902
01:50:45,669 --> 01:50:43,280
and i don't know what it would be worth

2903
01:50:48,709 --> 01:50:45,679
back today but back that even back then

2904
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:48,719
150 pounds of silver is a lot of money

2905
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:50,000
you know

2906
01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:51,920
and luckily he hadn't sold any of it yet

2907
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:53,119
he just

2908
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:54,320
went there one night when they were

2909
01:50:58,709 --> 01:50:55,679
sleeping he knew where it was in the

2910
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:58,719
attic and he took it and a polygraph

2911
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:01,360
examination was able to so i think it's

2912
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,840
excellent investigative tool but i i

2913
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:05,280
don't know that i believe just because

2914
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:07,040
you passed one that you're telling the

2915
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,400
truth

2916
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:10,400
yeah now i don't know if you happen to

2917
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:13,199
get a chance to hear when dodie and i

2918
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:15,040
were when we when vinnie and i

2919
01:51:19,910 --> 01:51:17,199
interviewed dodie and dodie explained

2920
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:19,920
very detailed how the government goes

2921
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:22,480
about doing their lie detector tests and

2922
01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:25,840
it is the uppermost echelon of a system

2923
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:27,520
there's there is different levels of

2924
01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:29,520
polygraph there is yeah you know and

2925
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:31,119
there's polygraph companies that you

2926
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:33,119
could go to and they'll administer you

2927
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:35,440
know you pay them like 200

2928
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:37,119
and they'll administer a polygraph to

2929
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:38,560
anyone you want

2930
01:51:42,709 --> 01:51:41,199
uh but that sort of polygraph from a

2931
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:42,719
private company and a private

2932
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:45,440
calligrapher is nothing compared to a

2933
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:47,679
government polygrapher they have more

2934
01:51:52,070 --> 01:51:50,000
sensors i've heard richard told me about

2935
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:52,080
some of the stuff they have more sensors

2936
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:54,080
like a regular polygraph you might have

2937
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:55,920
you know one sensor on your on each

2938
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,360
finger or something but these government

2939
01:52:01,830 --> 01:51:59,920
ones you're hooked up like frankenstein

2940
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:01,840
there's like all these they put these

2941
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:03,679
sensors on your chest so that you can

2942
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:06,400
measure galvanic that sweat response and

2943
01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:07,920
all that other stuff right they have

2944
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:09,280
heart monitor

2945
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:11,920
pulse monitors it's a lot more

2946
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,880
uh

2947
01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:14,880
a lot more data that they're getting to

2948
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:16,400
make the determinations with these

2949
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:18,400
government ones i wouldn't want to take

2950
01:52:22,390 --> 01:52:20,480
one of those

2951
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:22,400
exactly especially if you had a lie to

2952
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:23,840
keep a secret

2953
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:26,159
but uh yeah so anyway and then the other

2954
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:27,280
story i was going to tell you was about

2955
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:29,040
there was a time not too long ago

2956
01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:32,000
actually where uh emery smith is is now

2957
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,560
doing the cosmic disclosure uh portion

2958
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:36,480
uh or whatever

2959
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:39,040
with with uh randy kramer and they were

2960
01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:41,920
doing a talk and i guess uh sid goldberg

2961
01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:43,520
was kind of the guy in the background

2962
01:52:47,189 --> 01:52:44,880
the producer he kind of observes

2963
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:47,199
everything and monitors everything and i

2964
01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:49,440
guess something was said that that just

2965
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:51,599
wasn't resonating with sid

2966
01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:54,480
so sid uh and dodie was kind of a part

2967
01:52:57,270 --> 01:52:56,480
of the conversation so they took a time

2968
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:57,280
out

2969
01:53:01,589 --> 01:52:59,760
and said sid brought dodie aside and

2970
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:01,599
said you know i want you to do me a

2971
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:03,840
favor i want you to just you and randy

2972
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:06,239
have a conversation i said i want you to

2973
01:53:10,149 --> 01:53:08,800
ask him the questions and then and so

2974
01:53:11,669 --> 01:53:10,159
and then they pulled emery out of the

2975
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:11,679
room and emery wasn't there and

2976
01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:14,080
apparently dodie was asking questions

2977
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:17,119
and you know he's masterful of course

2978
01:53:23,189 --> 01:53:21,040
and was able to get without any coercion

2979
01:53:25,109 --> 01:53:23,199
uh randy cramer said some things that

2980
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:25,119
totally contradicted

2981
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:27,440
something that he had said previously to

2982
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:28,719
emery smith

2983
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,320
so it caused them to become very

2984
01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:32,960
concerned i'm not sure if if they fired

2985
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:34,719
kramer or they let him go or if they're

2986
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:36,159
just not interviewing him anymore i

2987
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:37,520
don't really know what the status is

2988
01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:40,719
right now but it caused a bad light on

2989
01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:42,800
randy kramer not too long ago did this

2990
01:53:46,790 --> 01:53:44,639
happen by the way that's interesting

2991
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:46,800
it's interesting to me to me

2992
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:49,920
uh gaia tv not firing emery smith after

2993
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:52,000
all the revelations about him it's just

2994
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:54,080
proof that they're garbage it's just you

2995
01:53:57,589 --> 01:53:55,280
know

2996
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:57,599
i i get it people it's a form of

2997
01:54:01,669 --> 01:54:00,080
entertainment and this and that but like

2998
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:01,679
and by the way just a correction

2999
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:04,000
somebody corrected me in the live chat

3000
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:05,920
the weapons that randy kramer was

3001
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:08,320
describing he was using on mars were not

3002
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:10,560
from the video game quake they were from

3003
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:12,639
the video game halo

3004
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:14,960
but he perfectly described weapons in

3005
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:16,639
the video game halo

3006
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,920
when somebody asked them what kind of

3007
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:19,920
weapons did they use to fight the aliens

3008
01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:22,080
on mars and i thought that was funny

3009
01:54:26,709 --> 01:54:24,480
that they they got halo weapons on the

3010
01:54:27,830 --> 01:54:26,719
on the mars secret missions you know

3011
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,840
yeah

3012
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:29,119
did you get a chance since we were

3013
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:30,719
talking about the super soldiers did you

3014
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:32,880
get a chance to see that uh that oaky

3015
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,320
video that just came out the other day

3016
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:36,639
for that yes i did and i can't tell you

3017
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,679
at least

3018
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:40,080
no exaggeration 25 people sent that to

3019
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:43,280
me and uh i'm gonna uh interview him i

3020
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:44,639
hope good good for you that'll be a

3021
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:46,000
great interview

3022
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:47,040
yeah

3023
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:49,280
i i was at that conference i saw that

3024
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,000
guy okie with his buddy and uh i've got

3025
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:54,719
video i've got i mean i spent two days

3026
01:54:59,750 --> 01:54:56,880
in the hotel we had a room with brad

3027
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:59,760
olsen and uh and tony rodriguez by the

3028
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:00,800
way

3029
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:02,800
and uh i'll tell you one thing of all

3030
01:55:06,550 --> 01:55:04,639
the super soldier stories that i've

3031
01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:06,560
heard so far

3032
01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:08,239
i can't really get on board with any of

3033
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,639
them but if i were to choose one guy

3034
01:55:15,109 --> 01:55:12,480
who i could potentially get on board

3035
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:15,119
with is tony rodriguez and i didn't even

3036
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:16,639
expect that i would ever say that or

3037
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:18,800
even think that but after spending three

3038
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,800
days in a hotel room with the guy you

3039
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:22,400
know and just observing him and

3040
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,159
listening to him and being able to ask

3041
01:55:28,470 --> 01:55:26,320
him questions and have a conversation

3042
01:55:31,109 --> 01:55:28,480
with him and and just watching how he

3043
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:31,119
answers and his responses i mean

3044
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:33,040
he had many many opportunities over

3045
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:35,679
hours of conversation to slip up

3046
01:55:39,109 --> 01:55:37,280
where i could have said ah yeah this

3047
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:39,119
guy's full of [\h__\h] but that that that

3048
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,760
opportunity never presented itself so uh

3049
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:42,960
i can't remember

3050
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:44,800
people don't know that about eric but

3051
01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:46,560
here's what eric does and you can

3052
01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:48,080
correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard

3053
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:49,360
you talk about this

3054
01:55:53,669 --> 01:55:50,320
eric

3055
01:55:56,709 --> 01:55:53,679
instead of like uh having an official

3056
01:55:57,990 --> 01:55:56,719
like show well now he does you know but

3057
01:56:00,310 --> 01:55:58,000
you used to

3058
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:00,320
you you would just go to ufo conferences

3059
01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:02,960
and he pals up with these guys he has

3060
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:04,400
drinks with them he tries to go to

3061
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:07,040
dinner with them and he grills them

3062
01:56:10,629 --> 01:56:08,400
and then and then he makes his

3063
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:10,639
determination about whether he believes

3064
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:12,000
that they're trustworthy or they're

3065
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,280
telling the truth

3066
01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:15,360
and and he's sort of like this

3067
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:17,280
undercover

3068
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:18,719
because they don't know that he's going

3069
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:20,400
to grill like some of these people that

3070
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:22,960
eric meets don't know that his true

3071
01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:24,880
intention is i'm going to get to this

3072
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:26,800
guy i'm going to have drinks with him

3073
01:56:31,030 --> 01:56:28,320
i'm going to buy them dinner whatever i

3074
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:31,040
got to do so that i can grill them and i

3075
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:33,199
love that i love that about eric

3076
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:35,040
you know i mean honestly it wasn't like

3077
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:37,119
you like you really grill people i'm i'm

3078
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:39,040
totally more the i'm like the soft shoe

3079
01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:40,960
salesman where i'm going to come in the

3080
01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:43,119
back door and and i'm gonna be real cool

3081
01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:44,480
about it i'm not gonna even try to

3082
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:46,880
challenge you i'm gonna i'm gonna act as

3083
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:49,440
if i believe your story i'm gonna i'm

3084
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:51,440
gonna smile when you tell your story i'm

3085
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:54,159
gonna i'm gonna say that's cool or wow

3086
01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:56,080
or that's really interesting so then

3087
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:57,520
you're going to think that that i

3088
01:57:00,629 --> 01:56:59,280
believe everything you're saying and

3089
01:57:01,990 --> 01:57:00,639
then you're going to be inclined to tell

3090
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:02,000
me even more because now you've got a

3091
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:04,159
captive audience so that's always been

3092
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:06,000
my style is to get people just to

3093
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:08,639
willingly spill their guts secret agent

3094
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:11,360
eric yeah yeah and i gotta i gotta say

3095
01:57:15,830 --> 01:57:13,440
i'm i'm a little jealous of eric because

3096
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:15,840
i have an autistic son and i can't

3097
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:17,920
travel with him you just you're not

3098
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:20,480
putting him on a plane you know and i

3099
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:22,880
and and because because of his issues

3100
01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:24,400
it's not like i can leave him with a

3101
01:57:28,550 --> 01:57:26,560
babysitter for a few days to go to a ufo

3102
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:28,560
conference or you know fly across the

3103
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:31,040
country so i'm always i'm always a

3104
01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:32,800
little jealous of eric and all of his

3105
01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:35,280
adventures because he goes to everything

3106
01:57:39,350 --> 01:57:37,440
and he's hanging out with all these

3107
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,360
interesting characters from conspiracy

3108
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:41,040
land all the time

3109
01:57:43,669 --> 01:57:42,159
yeah

3110
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:43,679
you know

3111
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:46,639
the one guy that i could never get uh

3112
01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:49,119
close to and under any circumstances and

3113
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:50,880
i tried was corey goode i went to

3114
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:52,560
several of his conferences

3115
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,880
i pretended to be part of the team i

3116
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:56,719
pretended to agree with that i was

3117
01:58:01,510 --> 01:57:59,040
supportive of his story i piled up with

3118
01:58:03,350 --> 01:58:01,520
his pals i mean i tried every angle i

3119
01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:03,360
could to get a chance to sit in a

3120
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:05,599
conversation with him and other and

3121
01:58:09,589 --> 01:58:07,840
there was only one time was i even able

3122
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:09,599
to get close enough to him we're

3123
01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:11,840
actually we're able to have like a brief

3124
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:14,400
chat with him but but because of that

3125
01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:16,159
that was the only he was constantly

3126
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:18,639
deflecting anybody that was not part of

3127
01:58:23,589 --> 01:58:21,280
his secret inner circle to me that was

3128
01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:23,599
that was evidence of deception but i

3129
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:25,360
could never prove it i was always trying

3130
01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,280
to come up with proof and then of course

3131
01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:29,440
chanter comes along and just starts

3132
01:58:33,669 --> 01:58:31,360
pulling his pulling his clothes off and

3133
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:33,679
just starts you know slamming him and

3134
01:58:39,189 --> 01:58:35,679
i'm thinking oh [\h__\h] well it's my you

3135
01:58:43,189 --> 01:58:41,270
but uh but yeah and then the whole the

3136
01:58:46,149 --> 01:58:43,199
whole thing with the with good suing

3137
01:58:48,870 --> 01:58:46,159
everybody and then uh i don't know

3138
01:58:51,430 --> 01:58:48,880
the guy's such a clown is asking how do

3139
01:58:53,589 --> 01:58:51,440
you fund your travels eric

3140
01:58:55,510 --> 01:58:53,599
well it doesn't cost much i mean i could

3141
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:55,520
i'm you know mike i've got i probably

3142
01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:56,320
spent

3143
01:59:00,550 --> 01:58:58,000
you've got like a real job right or

3144
01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:00,560
something yeah well i'm i would say i'm

3145
01:59:06,229 --> 01:59:04,159
technically i'm retired i guess but i do

3146
01:59:08,149 --> 01:59:06,239
have a a little job that i do if i need

3147
01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:08,159
money it's a leak it's legal i do

3148
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:10,400
nothing illegal of course i can't do

3149
01:59:18,629 --> 01:59:16,629
hey just just so you know it's legal

3150
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:18,639
it's legal yeah well because you know i

3151
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:20,560
knew that getting in this field that

3152
01:59:24,070 --> 01:59:22,000
there was a potential that somebody was

3153
01:59:26,149 --> 01:59:24,080
gonna dox me and i figured i better be

3154
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:26,159
clean as a [\h__\h] or or there's

3155
01:59:29,910 --> 01:59:27,920
someone's gonna say oh this guy he's

3156
01:59:32,070 --> 01:59:29,920
this this and that so i knew that as

3157
01:59:33,910 --> 01:59:32,080
long as i proceed with

3158
01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:33,920
with legitimacy without any kind of

3159
01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:35,760
scammy [\h__\h] in my background or my

3160
01:59:39,270 --> 01:59:37,599
history then that i won't they can't

3161
01:59:41,589 --> 01:59:39,280
really troll me so that's kind of been

3162
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:41,599
my deal but but it doesn't cost much

3163
01:59:46,870 --> 01:59:45,360
really i mean gas to go uh you know

3164
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,880
here and there maybe a couple hundred

3165
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:48,800
bucks max and then and then i've got

3166
01:59:52,310 --> 01:59:50,400
friends that either i could stay at

3167
01:59:54,709 --> 01:59:52,320
their house or i've got a van i can camp

3168
01:59:57,030 --> 01:59:54,719
in my van or if i want to get a hotel

3169
01:59:58,629 --> 01:59:57,040
you know i can get a hotel but really i

3170
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:58,639
don't really spend that much i mean i

3171
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:01,040
could if i go out for a month let's say

3172
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,280
or three weeks on a trip i might spend

3173
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:04,960
an extra thousand dollars that i

3174
02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:06,960
wouldn't spend if i was home

3175
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,719
so i mean that's to me that's not a lot

3176
02:00:12,950 --> 02:00:10,639
of money i mean if i spend

3177
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:12,960
crack magic says uh awakening man runs

3178
02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:15,199
lazarus brothel confirmed

3179
02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:18,000
this is how rumors start

3180
02:00:22,709 --> 02:00:20,480
yeah yeah they're [\h__\h]

3181
02:00:25,270 --> 02:00:22,719
um well you know what uh we're coming up

3182
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:25,280
on two hours so i'm i'm gonna i'm about

3183
02:00:30,229 --> 02:00:27,040
to throw you out of here i still can't

3184
02:00:32,229 --> 02:00:30,239
read the super chats all right and a a

3185
02:00:34,709 --> 02:00:32,239
few other bits of business i guess to

3186
02:00:37,189 --> 02:00:34,719
get to but you got to come back and i'm

3187
02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:37,199
coming on your show next week yeah yeah

3188
02:00:40,470 --> 02:00:39,360
and we can maybe uh talk about the uh

3189
02:00:42,149 --> 02:00:40,480
there's still like two or three

3190
02:00:44,229 --> 02:00:42,159
paragraphs of this melon letter we can

3191
02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:44,239
we can wrap that up on our show

3192
02:00:47,350 --> 02:00:45,760
yeah yeah well you're always welcome

3193
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:47,360
here eric i'm glad that we worked things

3194
02:00:51,830 --> 02:00:49,760
out for those of you yeah eric and i got

3195
02:00:53,830 --> 02:00:51,840
some twitter beef and i didn't even

3196
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:53,840
remember what we were fighting about but

3197
02:00:58,229 --> 02:00:56,080
he did and it was something stupid and

3198
02:01:01,109 --> 02:00:58,239
they're like [\h__\h] this guy i block him

3199
02:01:02,470 --> 02:01:01,119
and he did the same thing to me

3200
02:01:04,390 --> 02:01:02,480
and we're we

3201
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:04,400
you and me have such similar interests

3202
02:01:08,709 --> 02:01:06,480
in so many things that we should fight

3203
02:01:10,550 --> 02:01:08,719
over some st i couldn't even remember

3204
02:01:11,990 --> 02:01:10,560
what you said or what you did i just

3205
02:01:13,990 --> 02:01:12,000
remember you really pissed me off and i

3206
02:01:16,229 --> 02:01:14,000
was like i've been racing eric the

3207
02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:16,239
awakening man and then

3208
02:01:19,510 --> 02:01:17,599
you were on chatter's show and i

3209
02:01:21,189 --> 02:01:19,520
listened to that and said yeah man i

3210
02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:21,199
like everything he's talking about why

3211
02:01:24,790 --> 02:01:23,040
did why did we get a fight i don't i

3212
02:01:25,990 --> 02:01:24,800
didn't remember then so well it's

3213
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:26,000
growing pain

3214
02:01:27,910 --> 02:01:26,880
we're all

3215
02:01:29,750 --> 02:01:27,920
good

3216
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,760
for whatever i said that pissed you off

3217
02:01:33,830 --> 02:01:31,360
and i hope you're good no i you know i

3218
02:01:35,830 --> 02:01:33,840
respect your i respect your enthusiasm

3219
02:01:37,910 --> 02:01:35,840
and your style even though like when you

3220
02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:37,920
sometimes when you yell it i find it

3221
02:01:41,510 --> 02:01:39,760
entertaining but other times it kind of

3222
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:41,520
it kind of gets on my nerves but it's

3223
02:01:44,149 --> 02:01:42,719
but i like you though and i think you're

3224
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:44,159
doing a good job and i'm going to

3225
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:46,000
continue to follow you i'm going to try

3226
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:48,560
to stop yelling or do it in short

3227
02:01:51,750 --> 02:01:50,159
no but i like the yelling though i think

3228
02:01:53,189 --> 02:01:51,760
i think that shows passion i think

3229
02:01:55,270 --> 02:01:53,199
that's a good thing you know have

3230
02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:55,280
passion just don't repeat the same thing

3231
02:01:58,629 --> 02:01:57,280
like five times in a row maybe yell

3232
02:02:00,070 --> 02:01:58,639
about it like two or three times and

3233
02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:00,080
then drop it move on to the next one

3234
02:02:04,950 --> 02:02:02,560
that's my only advice short burst there

3235
02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:04,960
you go

3236
02:02:10,790 --> 02:02:06,800
you'll move up into legendary status if

3237
02:02:12,950 --> 02:02:10,800
you can master the short burst rants

3238
02:02:15,669 --> 02:02:12,960
don't do a jimmy black 20-minute rant

3239
02:02:18,790 --> 02:02:15,679
and be and be like that guy

3240
02:02:21,750 --> 02:02:18,800
yeah well you know uh eric just we can

3241
02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:21,760
end on this you know uh a certain other

3242
02:02:26,950 --> 02:02:23,760
show host copyright claimed me on

3243
02:02:28,070 --> 02:02:26,960
youtube and got my videos taken down and

3244
02:02:30,470 --> 02:02:28,080
apparently

3245
02:02:33,270 --> 02:02:30,480
i had to file this counter notification

3246
02:02:35,109 --> 02:02:33,280
and he had 10 business days to sue me in

3247
02:02:37,030 --> 02:02:35,119
federal court so i want to give

3248
02:02:38,790 --> 02:02:37,040
everybody including eric because uh you

3249
02:02:41,830 --> 02:02:38,800
know i want to give everybody the good

3250
02:02:45,109 --> 02:02:41,840
news today was the deadline

3251
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:45,119
for that other show host to serve me as

3252
02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:46,400
a subpoena

3253
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:48,400
for a federal lawsuit

3254
02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:50,400
or sue me and uh

3255
02:02:55,830 --> 02:02:53,679
it's uh 9 p.m so i'm pretty sure

3256
02:02:57,430 --> 02:02:55,840
the business day is over with so it

3257
02:02:58,790 --> 02:02:57,440
appears that we're going to win our

3258
02:03:01,830 --> 02:02:58,800
copyright

3259
02:03:05,990 --> 02:03:01,840
strikes against me

3260
02:03:07,030 --> 02:03:06,000
legal situation with jimmy black

3261
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:07,040
jimmy

3262
02:03:12,870 --> 02:03:11,520
you know

3263
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:12,880
school

3264
02:03:17,350 --> 02:03:14,880
i consider it good news that i did not

3265
02:03:18,149 --> 02:03:17,360
get a subpoena for a lawsuit yeah you

3266
02:03:19,669 --> 02:03:18,159
know

3267
02:03:21,270 --> 02:03:19,679
i consider that good news now

3268
02:03:24,310 --> 02:03:21,280
interestingly i bet you there's some

3269
02:03:26,790 --> 02:03:24,320
kind of a uh youtube backlog or i don't

3270
02:03:28,870 --> 02:03:26,800
know that it's still up right now but

3271
02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:28,880
eventually when youtube realizes that

3272
02:03:33,589 --> 02:03:31,440
the 10 days has elapsed they will put my

3273
02:03:35,830 --> 02:03:33,599
videos back and take away this false

3274
02:03:37,030 --> 02:03:35,840
copyright strike yeah

3275
02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:37,040
you'll be all right

3276
02:03:40,390 --> 02:03:38,560
yeah that will be all right yeah if

3277
02:03:42,229 --> 02:03:40,400
these idiots keep you know trying to

3278
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:42,239
promote crooks you know that was one

3279
02:03:46,229 --> 02:03:44,400
thing that you and me used to argue over

3280
02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:46,239
yeah you've come to the light side on

3281
02:03:50,390 --> 02:03:47,679
that guy

3282
02:03:53,270 --> 02:03:50,400
could you defend him to the to the ends

3283
02:03:54,550 --> 02:03:53,280
of the earth bro and i did it

3284
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:54,560
that means you're a good friend that

3285
02:03:58,310 --> 02:03:56,800
means yeah i mean i i did i did defend

3286
02:03:59,350 --> 02:03:58,320
him but but in the back of my mind i

3287
02:04:01,430 --> 02:03:59,360
always knew that there was something

3288
02:04:03,910 --> 02:04:01,440
kind of shaky going on but but i never

3289
02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:03,920
really i didn't see the need to like

3290
02:04:07,109 --> 02:04:05,760
highlight that you know it wasn't like i

3291
02:04:08,950 --> 02:04:07,119
didn't see it would be kind of just me

3292
02:04:11,189 --> 02:04:08,960
just trolling people for no real good

3293
02:04:13,189 --> 02:04:11,199
reason but now that he's kind of

3294
02:04:15,189 --> 02:04:13,199
established himself as the person i

3295
02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:15,199
believe he is i i have no need for him

3296
02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:16,639
just that's just my feelings about the

3297
02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:19,040
guy no need yeah yeah absolutely all

3298
02:04:22,069 --> 02:04:20,320
right we're gonna throw you out of here

3299
02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:22,079
all right buddy

3300
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:23,440
and get me

3301
02:04:27,350 --> 02:04:25,679
give me the time and all or let's work

3302
02:04:28,709 --> 02:04:27,360
that out for next week right yeah yeah

3303
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:28,719
no problem i'll talk to you i'm going to

3304
02:04:32,310 --> 02:04:30,400
hang up and then i'll go listen on the

3305
02:04:34,709 --> 02:04:32,320
air with the on the youtube channel all

3306
02:04:36,790 --> 02:04:34,719
right thanks eric good night

3307
02:04:39,830 --> 02:04:36,800
all right friends we have eric the

3308
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:39,840
awakening man and i apologize

3309
02:04:44,229 --> 02:04:41,920
we tested this earlier and he had an

3310
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:44,239
avatar of a picture of him i don't know

3311
02:04:49,270 --> 02:04:46,400
what happened avatar's gone we couldn't

3312
02:04:52,629 --> 02:04:50,629
he came on here and i was like where's

3313
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:52,639
the avatar he i don't know why he

3314
02:04:55,990 --> 02:04:54,159
doesn't want to do video

3315
02:04:57,990 --> 02:04:56,000
i always joke that eric's like a secret

3316
02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:58,000
agent he can't do video when he goes on

3317
02:05:01,830 --> 02:04:59,520
shows because people might know what he

3318
02:05:02,550 --> 02:05:01,840
looks like maybe he's trying to keep the

3319
02:05:04,229 --> 02:05:02,560
uh

3320
02:05:05,830 --> 02:05:04,239
the people he's trying to get close to

3321
02:05:07,750 --> 02:05:05,840
from knowing what he looks like so when

3322
02:05:09,510 --> 02:05:07,760
he cozies up to him at a conference gets

3323
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:09,520
them drunk and starts grilling them for

3324
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,360
answers

3325
02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:13,920
for

3326
02:05:17,589 --> 02:05:15,920
so uh we're already a little over two

3327
02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:17,599
hours i've got a little more time to

3328
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:19,440
offer you so we're going to take a short

3329
02:05:22,870 --> 02:05:21,360
musical break i did see a few super

3330
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:22,880
chats for those who don't know there's

3331
02:05:26,470 --> 02:05:24,880
two ways to support the show the first

3332
02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:26,480
way is to throw money at me you can join

3333
02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:28,000
our patreon for as little as a dollar a

3334
02:05:33,669 --> 02:05:30,480
month we give extra content a monthly

3335
02:05:36,149 --> 02:05:33,679
video journal uh about the show sort of

3336
02:05:38,950 --> 02:05:36,159
backstage pass we also

3337
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:38,960
uh patreon benefactors get free music

3338
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:41,199
from me it all goes to patreon before it

3339
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:42,560
becomes public

3340
02:05:49,270 --> 02:05:45,599
uh so even rough mixes of music and this

3341
02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:49,280
album i'm developing all on patreon uh

3342
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:51,840
or you can send us a paypal donation and

3343
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:53,440
the link to do that's in the description

3344
02:05:57,990 --> 02:05:55,679
or you can hit that money button the

3345
02:05:59,669 --> 02:05:58,000
super chat and we read each and every

3346
02:06:02,550 --> 02:05:59,679
single super chat by the way if you do

3347
02:06:04,069 --> 02:06:02,560
send a paypal donation add a note make

3348
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:04,079
sure you add a note

3349
02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:06,480
and give us your chat room user id and

3350
02:06:10,149 --> 02:06:08,320
any message you'd like us to shout out

3351
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:10,159
and we will do that

3352
02:06:14,550 --> 02:06:12,320
otherwise you can hit that money button

3353
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:14,560
and that down in the live chat that's a

3354
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:16,960
super chat put in any amount you wish

3355
02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:18,880
and any message you like or purchase a

3356
02:06:22,870 --> 02:06:20,320
super sticker

3357
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:22,880
but anyway we read every single super

3358
02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:24,880
chat here so we're going to take a short

3359
02:06:29,830 --> 02:06:27,440
musical break and when i return we will

3360
02:06:31,589 --> 02:06:29,840
be reading every super chat so if you're

3361
02:06:33,510 --> 02:06:31,599
feeling generous and you want to help

3362
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:33,520
support this show and keep

3363
02:06:38,149 --> 02:06:35,760
us creating content like this for you to

3364
02:06:39,830 --> 02:06:38,159
enjoy please consider super chat we will

3365
02:06:40,870 --> 02:06:39,840
read each and every one of them when i

3366
02:06:48,090 --> 02:06:40,880
return

3367
02:06:48,100 --> 02:07:10,390
[Music]

3368
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:25,350
i can't

3369
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:53,189
for is

3370
02:07:53,199 --> 02:08:20,310
what do you want

3371
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:37,109
improvements over here

3372
02:08:37,119 --> 02:08:49,990
what do you want for me

3373
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:55,630
is it

3374
02:09:22,149 --> 02:09:16,990
[Music]

3375
02:09:39,420 --> 02:09:26,560
but take the blame and bake forgiveness

3376
02:09:39,430 --> 02:09:49,750
[Music]

3377
02:09:49,760 --> 02:10:30,629
is

3378
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:32,790
and we are back friends

3379
02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:34,320
so uh

3380
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:36,480
there's just a few uh bits of business

3381
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:37,520
that i guess

3382
02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:39,520
i i would like to talk about for a few

3383
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:42,320
minutes and that is uh first of all this

3384
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:48,870
i don't know what i'm trying to

3385
02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:50,560
i'm trying to find that the politest way

3386
02:10:54,709 --> 02:10:52,880
to say this

3387
02:10:55,830 --> 02:10:54,719
uh

3388
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:55,840
i get

3389
02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:00,790
i suppose

3390
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:03,040
uh i said some things

3391
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:04,960
and then what what happens we have this

3392
02:11:08,629 --> 02:11:06,560
back and forth and then this other show

3393
02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:08,639
host will say some things

3394
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:10,560
or content creator

3395
02:11:12,950 --> 02:11:11,440
um

3396
02:11:14,950 --> 02:11:12,960
but the things that i said i felt needed

3397
02:11:16,550 --> 02:11:14,960
to be said and and it is what it is it's

3398
02:11:19,030 --> 02:11:16,560
out there in the ether in the universe i

3399
02:11:21,030 --> 02:11:19,040
can't take it back nor do i want to take

3400
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:21,040
back most of what i said

3401
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:23,440
but i could have been kinder gentler and

3402
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:26,079
more diplomatic about the things that i

3403
02:11:29,109 --> 02:11:27,040
said

3404
02:11:31,189 --> 02:11:29,119
and uh

3405
02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:31,199
also uh

3406
02:11:35,270 --> 02:11:32,960
this tonight

3407
02:11:36,550 --> 02:11:35,280
we we have a surprise guest i didn't

3408
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:36,560
know that we're gonna have richard dodie

3409
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:38,960
until five minutes before the show

3410
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,719
uh and i didn't want to say no eric

3411
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:42,480
wanted him to come on because of these

3412
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:44,400
rumors and just because you know they're

3413
02:11:48,550 --> 02:11:46,639
friends and uh

3414
02:11:50,149 --> 02:11:48,560
i think that richard doty is a

3415
02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:50,159
problematic

3416
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,520
but very very uh controversial and

3417
02:11:56,149 --> 02:11:55,360
interesting character

3418
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:56,159
and

3419
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:58,880
on a personal level i like to have

3420
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:01,760
conversations with controversial and

3421
02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:03,599
interesting characters

3422
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:05,360
uh especially when they have similar

3423
02:12:08,229 --> 02:12:06,800
apparently have a lot of similar

3424
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:08,239
interests

3425
02:12:12,310 --> 02:12:09,520
that i do

3426
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:12,320
so i chose to let him come here

3427
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:14,239
and uh i know that some people are going

3428
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:17,920
to attack me viciously for letting him

3429
02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:18,960
be here

3430
02:12:24,629 --> 02:12:22,320
but i stand by my decision to do that

3431
02:12:26,629 --> 02:12:24,639
uh mostly because

3432
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,639
the vast majority of the audience that

3433
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:28,800
we have here many people have asked me

3434
02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:31,280
to interview him after

3435
02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:33,040
hearing this midnight hour show

3436
02:12:37,910 --> 02:12:36,000
interview i did with him a few years ago

3437
02:12:39,589 --> 02:12:37,920
so we stand by our decision to do that

3438
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:39,599
now if somebody is going to somehow

3439
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:41,119
equate

3440
02:12:45,589 --> 02:12:42,480
me hosting

3441
02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:45,599
a man like richard doty whose

3442
02:12:50,950 --> 02:12:47,920
military background can be verified

3443
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:50,960
whose employment history can be verified

3444
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:53,599
whose work history can be verified whose

3445
02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:56,719
long history involved in the ufo topic

3446
02:13:02,629 --> 02:13:00,000
is well known and established to a

3447
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:02,639
scammer who pretends to have cancer so

3448
02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:05,040
that he could steal money from people or

3449
02:13:12,069 --> 02:13:07,760
a scammer that has a

3450
02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:12,079
10 or more felony criminal convictions

3451
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:14,560
i i'm gonna have a problem with that

3452
02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:16,800
it's apples and oranges

3453
02:13:20,629 --> 02:13:18,400
but that being said

3454
02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:20,639
i did notice that uh

3455
02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:23,040
you know because of this back and forth

3456
02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:25,920
these other shows i suppose

3457
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:27,520
some people in the live chat are

3458
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:31,520
disparaging other shows other show hosts

3459
02:13:35,669 --> 02:13:33,840
and i don't want to encourage that in

3460
02:13:36,550 --> 02:13:35,679
fact i want to discourage you from doing

3461
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:36,560
that

3462
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:40,880
seekers here and we believe in free

3463
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:41,920
speech

3464
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:44,960
in fact somebody was uh smashing me in

3465
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,480
the beginning of the show

3466
02:13:50,629 --> 02:13:48,000
uh

3467
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:50,639
and insulting me and you know saying

3468
02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:52,560
pretty nasty i don't know

3469
02:13:56,709 --> 02:13:54,239
uh

3470
02:13:59,430 --> 02:13:56,719
i i didn't block the guy

3471
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:59,440
uh i didn't kick him out of the live

3472
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:01,679
chat i let him speak his mind

3473
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:03,920
but i would prefer to encourage our

3474
02:14:08,550 --> 02:14:06,159
audience here to not

3475
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:08,560
disparage uh make disparaging comments

3476
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:10,320
about other show hosts

3477
02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:13,199
uh or other shows i'm going to try it

3478
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,880
i'm going to put that out there and if

3479
02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:16,159
if you uh

3480
02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:17,760
i you know i'm not going to make it a

3481
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:20,239
rule i'm going to make it a request

3482
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:21,920
because

3483
02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:23,599
this back and forth

3484
02:14:26,550 --> 02:14:24,800
kind of thing

3485
02:14:28,790 --> 02:14:26,560
it could become a real

3486
02:14:31,589 --> 02:14:28,800
problem and distraction because instead

3487
02:14:33,030 --> 02:14:31,599
of working on good shows and booking

3488
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:33,040
great guests and having great

3489
02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:34,880
conversations that i could share with my

3490
02:14:39,350 --> 02:14:36,880
friends here i'm going to be yelling and

3491
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:39,360
screaming because some other show host

3492
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:42,000
started some [\h__\h] with me and i i i

3493
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:43,360
don't want to do that

3494
02:14:46,870 --> 02:14:45,679
where i would prefer to avoid con that's

3495
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:46,880
another thing

3496
02:14:50,229 --> 02:14:47,920
uh

3497
02:14:53,189 --> 02:14:50,239
i'm i i got a book

3498
02:14:55,350 --> 02:14:53,199
uh on conflict resolution and it talks

3499
02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:55,360
about the best

3500
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:57,440
the best way to deal with conflict is to

3501
02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:59,520
first avoid them

3502
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:01,599
certainly don't invite them but then the

3503
02:15:06,629 --> 02:15:04,320
book goes on about how how to

3504
02:15:08,149 --> 02:15:06,639
resolve conflicts anyway

3505
02:15:10,790 --> 02:15:08,159
just something i've been reading lately

3506
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:10,800
that i thought wow that's uh kind of uh

3507
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:13,360
relevant to what's going on with us so i

3508
02:15:18,629 --> 02:15:15,520
don't uh i'm not gonna make it a hard

3509
02:15:20,629 --> 02:15:18,639
face rule if you just if you've got some

3510
02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:20,639
things to get off your chest about some

3511
02:15:25,830 --> 02:15:24,000
other show you know whatever but i would

3512
02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:25,840
prefer that you didn't do that

3513
02:15:29,030 --> 02:15:27,679
because uh

3514
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:29,040
you know

3515
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:31,840
things happen it seems like these these

3516
02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:33,280
disagreements

3517
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:35,440
and these um

3518
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:37,520
these are its argument it's a beef an

3519
02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:40,480
art whatever you know they blow up and

3520
02:15:47,109 --> 02:15:43,679
then they sort of settle down if

3521
02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:48,629
if both sides

3522
02:15:54,069 --> 02:15:51,520
continue doing that it keeps going

3523
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:54,079
if both sides just step away

3524
02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,719
maybe cooler heads can prevail and

3525
02:16:00,310 --> 02:15:58,800
that's what i'm hopeful for

3526
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:00,320
uh

3527
02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:05,840
avoid new conflicts and having people

3528
02:16:07,669 --> 02:16:06,880
just

3529
02:16:10,310 --> 02:16:07,679
you know

3530
02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:10,320
rip to shred some other show

3531
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:12,320
uh and and and

3532
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:15,119
it might not even be uh

3533
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,960
i i i

3534
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:18,880
see this is difficult

3535
02:16:24,069 --> 02:16:21,040
the problem is when you say that stuff

3536
02:16:26,709 --> 02:16:24,079
in my live chat it it kind of goes

3537
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,719
it makes people think that i condone you

3538
02:16:30,550 --> 02:16:28,560
saying that or that i agree with you

3539
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:30,560
saying that and i may not

3540
02:16:35,190 --> 02:16:33,280
and i'm really trying to

3541
02:16:36,629 --> 02:16:35,200
just squash whatever beef and move

3542
02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:36,639
forward with great shows like we had

3543
02:16:41,990 --> 02:16:40,240
tonight because tonight we didn't uh

3544
02:16:43,509 --> 02:16:42,000
yell and scream and we just had a nice

3545
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:43,519
conversation and i'd like to have more

3546
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:45,120
of that in my life and i hope that you

3547
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:47,120
would like to see more of that as well

3548
02:16:49,669 --> 02:16:48,639
so uh

3549
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:49,679
we're gonna

3550
02:16:54,150 --> 02:16:51,760
go ahead and thank you kai and generous

3551
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:54,160
super chatters um i'm gonna put this up

3552
02:17:01,830 --> 02:16:57,040
on my screen we have just a few tonight

3553
02:17:06,230 --> 02:17:04,309
yeah so just have a couple of those to

3554
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:06,240
shout out and then i'm gonna bounce on

3555
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:08,960
out of here because friends uh

3556
02:17:14,230 --> 02:17:12,080
i gotta say i wanna thank spooky uh for

3557
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:14,240
all the help that spooky gives this show

3558
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:16,960
but this week has been and i think it

3559
02:17:21,270 --> 02:17:19,120
was a great week of shows and i hope you

3560
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,280
do too couldn't have done it without the

3561
02:17:25,429 --> 02:17:23,040
help from spooky

3562
02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:25,439
and and you kind of generous supporters

3563
02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:27,679
so uh tonight we had just two super

3564
02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:28,719
chats

3565
02:17:33,589 --> 02:17:31,519
uh kali armstrong with uh two dollar

3566
02:17:35,830 --> 02:17:33,599
great britain pounds says ongoing work

3567
02:17:37,910 --> 02:17:35,840
stephen and lee guy with kind generous

3568
02:17:40,629 --> 02:17:37,920
dollar 99

3569
02:17:42,790 --> 02:17:40,639
asking does richard dodie like bacon

3570
02:17:44,309 --> 02:17:42,800
that made my night thank you lee guy for

3571
02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:44,319
kindness your generosity and your

3572
02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:46,319
support in fact thank all of you kind

3573
02:17:49,990 --> 02:17:49,200
and generous supporters benefactors

3574
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:50,000
uh

3575
02:17:54,469 --> 02:17:52,719
it really does help keep the show going

3576
02:17:56,230 --> 02:17:54,479
so i'll take some comments and questions

3577
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:56,240
from the live chat before i bounce on

3578
02:18:00,389 --> 02:17:58,240
out of here uh i was saying that this

3579
02:18:03,349 --> 02:18:00,399
week was great week for shows but it was

3580
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:03,359
hard work some of this and uh i'm kind

3581
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:07,040
of beat i'm gonna go get my drink on

3582
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:09,280
uh it's new case day you know what that

3583
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:10,479
means

3584
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,800
i got a whole case of beer gonna try to

3585
02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:14,559
only drink you know a certain number

3586
02:18:21,110 --> 02:18:18,639
though new case day could be dangerous

3587
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:21,120
no uh i'm gonna i'm gonna be good but i

3588
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:25,040
am gonna have a few beers absolutely

3589
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:27,359
um

3590
02:18:32,150 --> 02:18:29,200
we have the university of collective

3591
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:32,160
consciousness love that user id sounds

3592
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:34,080
like something i'd be interested in so

3593
02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:34,880
uh

3594
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:36,800
yeah i gotta check that out the

3595
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:38,880
university of collective consciousness

3596
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:40,319
says just found your channel keep

3597
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:42,240
spreading your truth and keep an open

3598
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:43,920
mind i'm going to try to keep an open

3599
02:18:46,629 --> 02:18:44,880
mind

3600
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:46,639
yeah i really i really will try to keep

3601
02:18:50,549 --> 02:18:48,399
an open mind al warrior the kind of

3602
02:18:52,150 --> 02:18:50,559
generous five dollar super sticker and

3603
02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:52,160
i'm sorry those first two super chats

3604
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:54,080
are way way back in the live chat so i

3605
02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:55,760
couldn't share them on the screen but

3606
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:58,160
any super chats going forward before we

3607
02:19:02,549 --> 02:18:59,599
end our broadcast i can put on the

3608
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:02,559
screen read and thank you as well spooky

3609
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:05,280
wants to do an after party spooky if if

3610
02:19:11,270 --> 02:19:08,960
spooky had her way i would be i would be

3611
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:11,280
live streaming somewhere on the internet

3612
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:13,439
at least 12 hours a day

3613
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:15,840
spooky you're a bad influence

3614
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:17,200
no uh

3615
02:19:21,190 --> 02:19:19,519
i'm gonna pass on the after party spooky

3616
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:21,200
but we could talk about doing something

3617
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:23,679
tomorrow night because i'm not going to

3618
02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:24,719
the cabin

3619
02:19:31,429 --> 02:19:28,719
a huge snowstorm and where i live got a

3620
02:19:33,910 --> 02:19:31,439
pretty good one a pretty good wallop uh

3621
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:33,920
so the kids were home today uh we had to

3622
02:19:37,270 --> 02:19:35,920
do the virtual school which wasn't as

3623
02:19:38,709 --> 02:19:37,280
bad as i thought it was going to be they

3624
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:38,719
don't make you do it for

3625
02:19:42,150 --> 02:19:40,719
you know seven hours it's just a couple

3626
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,160
hours in the morning

3627
02:19:46,709 --> 02:19:44,960
so it wasn't that bad but you know

3628
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:46,719
uh but anyway i'm not going to the cabin

3629
02:19:50,469 --> 02:19:48,640
this weekend spooky so uh

3630
02:19:52,469 --> 02:19:50,479
i i am available to do something

3631
02:19:54,309 --> 02:19:52,479
tomorrow night

3632
02:19:56,309 --> 02:19:54,319
blink and liar says victor thanks for

3633
02:19:58,230 --> 02:19:56,319
your research it is a compelling case

3634
02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:58,240
yeah victor we want to have you come

3635
02:20:03,590 --> 02:20:00,640
back do you know i'm doing a show on

3636
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:03,600
the health crisis uh and australia going

3637
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:05,760
crazy and you're australian i'm gonna

3638
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:06,640
have

3639
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:09,200
daniel from the context on and i would

3640
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,520
like to have you as well uh just to talk

3641
02:20:15,110 --> 02:20:13,439
about your experience i want to let

3642
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:15,120
americans know what's going on over

3643
02:20:20,550 --> 02:20:19,040
there victor uh it's crazy it's so crazy

3644
02:20:22,150 --> 02:20:20,560
now you can't leave your house for even

3645
02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:22,160
an hour a day

3646
02:20:26,710 --> 02:20:24,880
it's crazy

3647
02:20:28,710 --> 02:20:26,720
i shouldn't laugh i feel for those

3648
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:28,720
people it's like

3649
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:32,080
they got camps over there and stuff

3650
02:20:36,230 --> 02:20:34,399
peter the havalar to have a land says

3651
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:36,240
can anyone explain how david wilcock has

3652
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:38,240
avoided jail despite preying on the weak

3653
02:20:42,710 --> 02:20:40,000
minded and vulnerable i don't know some

3654
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,720
of the things he did look for look like

3655
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:44,399
criminality to me but

3656
02:20:49,830 --> 02:20:47,120
you know i'm not a federal prosecutor or

3657
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:49,840
or a law enforcement officer so

3658
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:51,520
i think that eventually he's gonna go

3659
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,760
too far with one of his griffs and uh

3660
02:20:57,830 --> 02:20:55,680
that's when they're gonna nail them

3661
02:20:59,349 --> 02:20:57,840
and

3662
02:21:00,790 --> 02:20:59,359
from this what you will could be a rumor

3663
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:00,800
because it's a new source that i'm

3664
02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:02,560
currently developing but

3665
02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:03,439
um

3666
02:21:08,230 --> 02:21:05,680
they're telling me that the irs is up

3667
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:08,240
certain conspiracy land characters asses

3668
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:10,800
right now big time and i don't know if

3669
02:21:15,510 --> 02:21:13,920
that's true uh but i'm hopeful that it

3670
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:15,520
is

3671
02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:17,439
victor says uh sure i can do that all

3672
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:18,720
right i'm gonna try to coordinate it

3673
02:21:22,150 --> 02:21:20,640
with you and daniel let's see when

3674
02:21:24,309 --> 02:21:22,160
daniel can do it and then i'm gonna see

3675
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:24,319
if you can also do it

3676
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:26,800
but i'm gonna do it at a good time for

3677
02:21:30,630 --> 02:21:29,040
you guys because of the time difference

3678
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:30,640
do you know what i mean like i don't

3679
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:31,680
care if it's three o'clock in the

3680
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:34,240
morning here if it's three whatever i

3681
02:21:38,150 --> 02:21:36,640
don't know what what what the

3682
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,160
time difference is let me see time

3683
02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:40,399
difference

3684
02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:43,760
us to australia

3685
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:49,830
it's a four oh it's a four-hour

3686
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:51,359
difference well anyway we'll work it out

3687
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:53,040
we'll work it out offline victor

3688
02:21:57,030 --> 02:21:55,120
cagliaro and good to see you here

3689
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:57,040
so uh

3690
02:22:01,349 --> 02:21:59,120
peter the havalan says when i was at the

3691
02:22:03,670 --> 02:22:01,359
university security expert came to speak

3692
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:03,680
at oxford union he demonstrated how to

3693
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:06,399
beat one and a half dozen volunteers who

3694
02:22:10,309 --> 02:22:08,479
tried which is 10 minutes coaching all

3695
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:10,319
past easily oh how to pass a lie

3696
02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:13,120
detector that is interesting that is

3697
02:22:17,910 --> 02:22:16,240
interesting i i think that it's entirely

3698
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:17,920
possible to fool

3699
02:22:21,830 --> 02:22:20,080
mark toronto i'm in sydney australia i

3700
02:22:23,429 --> 02:22:21,840
can go anywhere i need to go don't

3701
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:23,439
believe the media hype

3702
02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:26,080
uh but have you had your faulty algae

3703
02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:27,359
because i'm talking about people that

3704
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:28,560
have not

3705
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:32,080
taken the procedure you're not allowed

3706
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:34,000
out of your house even for work now i

3707
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:36,160
saw a video on twitter just yesterday or

3708
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:37,680
the day before mark

3709
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:38,720
um

3710
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:41,040
that's what i was basing that on

3711
02:22:45,190 --> 02:22:42,560
lord ludacris platt is here and says

3712
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:45,200
great show tonight yes i agree

3713
02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:51,190
mike gibbly says no he was talking about

3714
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,280
a circle jerk

3715
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,600
prank magic i can't imagine

3716
02:23:00,950 --> 02:22:57,520
seattle had some snow last week and it

3717
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:00,960
ain't for me i grew up in the desert

3718
02:23:06,230 --> 02:23:03,520
oh really mark that's interesting

3719
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,240
well maybe is it different provinces or

3720
02:23:10,230 --> 02:23:08,160
or are they all the same

3721
02:23:15,429 --> 02:23:10,240
i don't know now i'm going to check now

3722
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:17,830
lisa m says i'm getting my drink on now

3723
02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:19,920
and i will be soon in fact i'm going to

3724
02:23:25,670 --> 02:23:22,080
bounce on out of here we're already

3725
02:23:32,309 --> 02:23:27,670
yeah

3726
02:23:36,389 --> 02:23:32,319
that is insane australia has lost their

3727
02:23:40,950 --> 02:23:38,630
phil blair says who is awakening man i'm

3728
02:23:43,190 --> 02:23:40,960
just checking my phone now

3729
02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:43,200
eric the awakening man well-known

3730
02:23:47,110 --> 02:23:45,280
conspiracy lane character

3731
02:23:49,270 --> 02:23:47,120
uh yeah

3732
02:23:50,710 --> 02:23:49,280
so uh i want to thank each and every one

3733
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:50,720
of you for joining us i especially want

3734
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:51,920
to thank our kind and generous

3735
02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:53,040
supporters

3736
02:23:56,790 --> 02:23:55,280
uh and super chatters i also want to

3737
02:23:58,309 --> 02:23:56,800
remind you that besides throwing money

3738
02:24:00,870 --> 02:23:58,319
at me there's one other way that you can

3739
02:24:02,710 --> 02:24:00,880
help that is to like comment subscribe

3740
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:02,720
and share if you're listening an audio

3741
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:04,800
podcast land you're missing half the fun

3742
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:07,200
going over to youtube put truth seekers

3743
02:24:11,590 --> 02:24:08,800
in the search bar look for me stephen

3744
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:11,600
campion uh your host the strange guy

3745
02:24:15,990 --> 02:24:14,080
with the sunglasses smash the subscribe

3746
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:16,000
button hit the notification bell and you

3747
02:24:22,150 --> 02:24:18,800
too can come here and be a part of our

3748
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:22,160
very fun live chat live broadcasts uh

3749
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:24,560
you can participate in the chat uh chat

3750
02:24:29,590 --> 02:24:27,200
with other like-minded people

3751
02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:29,600
uh offer comments and questions and

3752
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:31,520
commentary to what we're talking about

3753
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:33,920
on the show you are most welcome here

3754
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:35,040
friends

3755
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:37,840
um and the other thing that you can do

3756
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:39,920
is to leave some comments let us know

3757
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:41,760
what you think of this episode did you

3758
02:24:46,389 --> 02:24:44,399
like this guest should i say i'm sorry

3759
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:46,399
eric but everybody says you suck and you

3760
02:24:50,710 --> 02:24:48,240
can't come on the show no more if you

3761
02:24:52,870 --> 02:24:50,720
think eric the awakening man sucks put

3762
02:24:55,190 --> 02:24:52,880
it down there right down there in the in

3763
02:24:57,349 --> 02:24:55,200
the comments let me know that he sucked

3764
02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:57,359
and i won't have him again we want to

3765
02:25:04,630 --> 02:25:01,520
have you know guests the audience likes

3766
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:04,640
so uh i i always i always gotta tell you

3767
02:25:07,110 --> 02:25:05,920
this friends i'm always happy when

3768
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,120
there's an audience we have great

3769
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:09,359
numbers again tonight and i'm seeing

3770
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:11,520
this steady inc uh

3771
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:13,760
climb of the live chat and it's good to

3772
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:16,560
see it seems like we're picking up

3773
02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:18,720
uh and getting a lot more people in the

3774
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:20,720
live chat and that certainly puts a

3775
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:23,439
smile on my face it lets me know that

3776
02:25:27,590 --> 02:25:25,600
we're growing and we're expanding we're

3777
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:27,600
evolving the show

3778
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:30,319
and uh that for sure

3779
02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:32,160
makes me feel great

3780
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:33,600
thank you for being in my audience

3781
02:25:38,790 --> 02:25:35,520
tonight thank you for spending some of

3782
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:38,800
your time right here with me uh

3783
02:25:42,550 --> 02:25:40,319
you know

3784
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:42,560
someday i i will look back on this

3785
02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:44,800
journey and i will be thankful for each

3786
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:47,520
and every one of you uh who came here to

3787
02:25:51,590 --> 02:25:49,280
see us do this thing hear us do this

3788
02:25:54,550 --> 02:25:51,600
thing to take part to participate in

3789
02:25:56,710 --> 02:25:54,560
this journey and what a journey it has

3790
02:25:58,150 --> 02:25:56,720
been friends i'm glad that you can come

3791
02:26:00,630 --> 02:25:58,160
along with me

3792
02:26:02,870 --> 02:26:00,640
so until next time friends uh my name is

3793
02:26:06,790 --> 02:26:02,880
stephen cambion good night and god bless

3794
02:26:06,800 --> 02:26:11,429
[Music]

3795
02:26:11,439 --> 02:26:16,770
so

3796
02:26:16,780 --> 02:26:25,110
[Music]

3797
02:26:43,500 --> 02:26:26,130
so

3798
02:27:22,780 --> 02:27:21,349
[Music]

3799
02:27:41,300 --> 02:27:22,790
so

3800
02:27:41,410 --> 02:27:41,310
[Music]

3801
02:28:07,590 --> 02:27:41,420
[Applause]